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Self-Driving Teslas Are Fatally Striking Motorcyclists More Than Any Other Brand: New Analysis (fuelarc.com)
submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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TL;DR: Self-Driving Teslas Rear-End Motorcyclists, Killing at Least 5

Brevity is the spirit of wit, and I am just not that witty. This is a long article, here is the gist of it:

  • The NHTSA’s self-driving crash data reveals that Tesla’s self-driving technology is, by far, the most dangerous for motorcyclists, with five fatal crashes that we know of.
  • This issue is unique to Tesla. Other self-driving manufacturers have logged zero motorcycle fatalities with the NHTSA in the same time frame.
  • The crashes are overwhelmingly Teslas rear-ending motorcyclists.

Read our full analysis as we go case-by-case and connect the heavily redacted government data to news reports and police documents.

Oh, and read our thoughts about what this means for the robotaxi launch that is slated for Austin in less than 60 days.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I imagine bicyclists must be æffected as well if they're on the road (as we should be, technically). As somebody who has already been literally inches away from being rear-ended, this makes me never want to bike in the US again.

Time to go to Netherlands.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

*affected

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you for your service.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Affectively, does it realy mater if someone has slite misstakes in there righting?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think i had a stroke reading that. Take your upvote and get out!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not going to lie, I almost had a stroke writing it...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I upvoted every comment in this sub-thread shitshow and hated all of it.

You monster gif

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yer welcome!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

this makes me never want to bike in the US again.

I live close enough to work for it to be a very reasonable biking distance. But there is no safe route. A high-speed "stroad" with a narrow little bike lane. It would only be a matter of time before some asshole with their face in their phone drifts into me.

I am deeply resentful of our automobile-centric infrastructure in the U.S. It's bad for the environment, bad for our wallets, bad for our waistlines, and bad for physical safety.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

human driving cars still target bicyclists on purpose so i don’t know see how teslas could be any worse…

p.s. painting a couple lines on the side of the road does not make a safe bike lane… they need a physical barrier separating the road from them… like how curbs separate the road from sidewalks…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean yeah, I just said above that someone almost killed me. They were probably a human driver. But that's a "might happen, never know." If self driving cars are rear-ending people, that's an inherent artifact of it's programming, even though it's not intentionally programmed to do that.

So it's like, things were already bad. I already do not feel safe doing any biking anymore. But as self driving cars become more prevalent, that threat upgrades to a kind of defacto, "Oh, these vast stretches of land are places where only cars and trucks are allowed. Everything else is roadkill waiting to happen."