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Move the Overton Window (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (35 children)

The Window keeps moving for one simple reason.

The GOPs vote in every election. They may hate the candidate but if they've gotten the Party's endorsement they'll vote.

The Left keeps waiting for the perfect candidate to come along...

[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (23 children)

"Perfect"

The left is waiting for an actual left candidate and the Democrats keep running moderate right-wingers who wouldn't have been out of place on the Republican ticket 25 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“””””moderate right-wingers”””””, only in this shithole could we call a fascist-lite candidate that. Gods I hate this dump

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I didn't think that needed to be added. We all understand where "moderate" right-wing behavior leads..

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The problem is the Democrats aren't a real leftist party. I'm done waiting for the Democrats to finally disobey their oligarch masters and cater to their voters.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

More than that they're hodgepodge party. They're combination of liberals and leftist. This was okay for the most part when the little liberals, the petite bourgeoisie, was in control of the party. Because their interest usually align mostly with the left, if not totally. But starting in the late seventies and the eighties the neoliberals took over, the big liberals, the the grand bourgeoisie. So now the party is run by people whose economic and social interests are directly and violently opposed to leftists. So the party's inherently self-destructive.

Until we jettison those neoliberals, we have no chance. That's why so many people say it's time for a new party. Leave them to their old decrepit party and move in Mass to something new.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

They are physically unable to jettison those people because they're responsible for the majority of the funding.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

The GOPs vote in every election.

Republican voters (especially the radicals) throw a fit and stay home or vote third party whenever they don't get their way. Because they've done this, the Republican party has learned to fall in line behind what they want, and so they vote for it. Even so, the Libertarian party regularly gets triple the votes of the Greens and the last major third party candidate drew votes primarily from the right. The right is constantly whining about "RINOs," and if you go into most right-wing circles and try the shit liberals do with the left, "Sure you might not agree with their stance on abortion, sure they're going to regulate your guns, but if you don't fall in line, you're not a 'real' right-winger," you would be bullied and laughed at.

Liberals think it's the opposite because they're obsessed with making sure every single person falls in line without a single condition. Absolutely no respect for anyone's moral convictions (in contrast to the right). So anyone who ever tries to hold the democrats to a standard is the most important thing ever, whereas on the right it's just normalized and accepted because it's so common.

There is no data whatsoever that supports your narrative, and it also doesn't make any sense. There are so many more "my way or the highway" types on the right, this is the culture that produces soverign citizens who are the ultimate expression of "refusing to compromise your beliefs even when it's completely unreasonable and out of line with reality," and libertarians and such are just a lighter version of that.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

"the Republicans vote in every election" said the foaming Democrat as the Gestapo took them away to the camps.

your country is literally going through a coup and all you can think about is this fetishistic image of saving your country through electoral reform. I'd be laughing if I wasn't so disturbed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I was at a local protest yesterday. There were probably a few thousand of us in total. As we were marched around, led by police officers who monitored and managed our progress the whole time, I just kept thinking "This many people working together could probably actually do something that gets national attention." We have a Trump Tower in my city that the protest went by, and everyone just ineffectually flipped it off or yelled some dumb shit like "Fuck Donald Trump." I bet if we'd all charged the lobby at once, it'd have broken through to national news, but instead we kept an orderly and maintained peace as we shouted "No Justice, No Peace." It won't surprise you to learn corporate news didn't bother to report on it, since nothing really happened.

I'm getting out of this place, Americans have no goddamn chance. They don't know how to protest, they don't know how to scare their oligarchs anymore. It's no wonder the oligarchs are laughing at us, I'm laughing too.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm always open to learning.

Why don't you explain in detail how you personally mustered a large swath of the population to follow you.

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