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Downvote brigading via third instance hypothetical (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I’ve been on a journey today trying to understand the fediverse better.

I’ll be mindful to not start bitching about certain instances.

Here’s my example:

Is it technically possible that posts or comments still get downvote-brigaded by an instance that is technically defederated from the instance of the OP?

So let’s say instance A and B are defederated from each other, but both are federated with instance C. After a user from A posts something on C does every user from B get to downvote everything?

I’m trying to determine if the Fediverse has recourse against an r/TheDonald scenario, where one toxic element is allowed to flourish for too long and - in the case with the other site - eventually takes over and destroys everything.

If this debate has been had somewhere else, please feel free to point me there, otherwise I’d love to understand this better.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

On the one hand, one of the things we often tout about the Old Internet was the ability for anyone to run their own website, forum, blog, etc, free from corporatization. On the other hand, running your website is a responsibility on your part, and in the convenience-focused Internet we have now, seems to be a forgotten lesson.

On the third, mutant hand growing out of our back, fedi software should be designed with security-by-default, i.e. no open registration, to prevent the forgotten lesson from being a huge problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For a website, forum, blog, etc, at least the damage caused by poor security would be limited to just that platform. Unfortunate, but contained. With federation, that poor security becomes everyone else's problem as well. Hence my gripe lol.

It's been so long since I setup my instance, I honestly don't recall what the default "Registration mode" is.

I'm but a small drop in the larger fediverse, but I do develop a frontend for Lemmy. I actually coded the "Registration" section in the admin panel to nag you if the config is insecure. lol

It will still let you do it, just with a persistent nag message on that page.