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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The peoblem is that at demonstrations against Israel there are a lot of people who confuse that. So there actually is a lot of antisemitism happening. Some people who are strongly antisemitic just take the whole conflict as an excuse. Ofc not the majority, but there are allways idiots.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Basically any movement against bad people who happen to be part of a minority seems to get hijacked by bigoted people eventually.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

It just means we have to do a bit of extra labour to make sure our movements are not infiltrated by shitbirds. I was just at a protest this weekend, and was pleased by the handful of signs I saw specifically denouncing anti-semitism.

Yes, it sucks that we have to throw in what feels like a parenthetical, while people are bleeding out under tonnes of rubble, but y'know, I guess that's just where we're at as a species right now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

True. It happens in reverse, too. Sometimes people try to disguise hateful antisemitism as a valid political discussion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where do you come from all ?

Here in France, you even have the far right who is 100% racist and antisemitic , who start to be accepted by the average population, as defensor of the Jews and being seen as an wall to protect them...

Because here in France, they have made the movement against antisemitic a movement against Arabs and assimilated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

American here. The progressives among us despise the fact that bigotry is becoming more and more acceptable. We’re supposed to be outgrowing that shit, not encouraging it!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Thanks for tour answer.

Clearly for your last sentence :'(

Progressive are pretty dead here and have no visibility at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This whole thing has given antisemites plausible deniability to express their hateful views. It's impossible to tell who is anti-Israel because of antisemitism and who is anti-Israel for other reasons.