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In the piece — titled "Can You Fool a Self Driving Car?" — Rober found that a Tesla car on Autopilot was fooled by a Wile E. Coyote-style wall painted to look like the road ahead of it, with the electric vehicle plowing right through it instead of stopping.

The footage was damning enough, with slow-motion clips showing the car not only crashing through the styrofoam wall but also a mannequin of a child. The Tesla was also fooled by simulated rain and fog.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I bet the reason why he does not want the LiDAR in the car really cause it looks ugly aestheticly.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

It costs too much. It's also why you have to worry about panels falling off the swastitruck if you park next to them. They also apparently lack any sort of rollover frame.

He doesn't want to pay for anything, including NHTSB crash tests.

It's literally what Drumpf would have created if he owned a car company. Cut all costs, disregard all regulations, and make the public the alpha testers.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

it did cost too much at the time, but currently he doesnt want to do it because he would have to admit hes wrong.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The guy bankrupted a casino, not by playing against it and being super lucky, but by owning it. Virtually everything he has ever touched in business has turned to shit. How do you ever in the living fuck screwup stakes at Costco? My cousin with my be good eye and a working elbow could do it.

And now its the country's second try. This time unhinged, with all the training wheels off. The guy is stepping on the pedal while stripping the car for parts and giving away the fuel. The guy doesn't even drive, he just fired the chauffeur and is dismantling the car from the inside with a shot gun...full steam ahead on to a nice brick wall and an infinity cliff ready to take us all with him. And Canada and Mexico and Gina. Three and three quarters of a year more of daily atrocities and law breakage. At least Hitler boy brought back the astronauts.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I was mostly lambasting fElon, not Drumpf. You're correct on Drumpf though. I was discussing the swastitruck, after all. Drumpf showed that he's scared to drive any of the swasticars when he pretended to know how to sell anything, much less an EV.

Oh, and Drumpf bankrupted 3-4 casinos in the late '80s to early '90s in Atlantic City, NJ. Literally the golden age of AC casinos.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's all money laundering for russian mob/fsb. Still pretty hard to bankrupt a business that basically prints $$$ though. Epic levels of incompetence!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Not enough. Go on to do it four more times.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The panels are glued on. The glue fails when the temperature changes.

I can't believe that this car is legal to drive in public.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Right? It's also got a cast aluminum frame that breaks if you load the trailer hitch with around 10,000 lbs of downward force. Which means that the back of your Cybertruck could just straight up break off if you've frontloaded your trailer and hit a pothole wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Only in America

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

basically like oceangates stockton.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, I haven't ever heard of his father referring to Stockton as "retarded," according to his teachers and professors, the way that I absolutely have heard about both Drumpf and fElon.

Other than that, yeah. Bullshit techbro shit, and landleech shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

stockton california is named after family.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

But without the happy ending.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The ~~front~~ back fell off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You don't necessarily need to implement lidar the way Waymo does it with the spinning sensor. IPad Pros have them. Could have at least put a few of these on the front without significantly affecting aesthetics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

the way Waymo does it with the spinning sensor

There's a reason they do that, he actually covers that in the video. Lidar spins a single line many, many many times a second. Processing the differences in that line scan to scene makes the point cloud generation many times easier allowing the scan to be exponentially more dense.

The iPhone uses a diffraction grating to shoot static dots at your face and looks for the subtle movements of your face and phone to generate a 3D scan.

The diffraction method is tiny and good for static identification but bad for high-speed outdoors.

The spinny towers give it a better field of view. you could probably put shorter towers on each corner, or even build them into the body panels, but it's a delicate, expensive instrument and it's not what's currently holding back self driving anyway :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Everyone and their dog uses radar for distance sensing for the adaptive cruise control. You take the same migh speed sensor and use it for wall detection. It's how the emergency stop functions work where it detects a car in front of you slamming on the brakes.