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Have you ever heard of the term federation-washing?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Getting set up on Bluesky is orders of magnitude easier than Mastodon,

I'm so tired of hearing this. Just click the mastodon.social button in the app and it's not any different.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

Not setting up an account, that's roughly the same. Adding contacts by topic, blocking topics and people with bad agendas en masse, etc. I started my Mastodon account almost a year before Bluesky. In Bluesky I had something useful in a week. In Mastodon I still don't (and it's not for lack of effort).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I’ve been on Mastodon for two years now. I’m active and all.

And yet, to this date, I still can’t find a single person in my working field, who are located within the province of Quebec.

Bluesky? Found and added over a hundred, in mere days.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean you're making my point here. More marketshare = more leverage over users.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think I do… what I explained was, Mastodon is too difficult not because of the interface, it’s because it’s too decentralized, to the point of everyone getting lost in the forest, and no one can find each other within the networks.

As for Bluesky, while it’s not the best or safest alternative, is way more convenient for networking—the raison d’être of a social network.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No one is arguing about that. None of that matters when BlueSky turns into the next Xitter. Your social network is irrelevant when you can't even find those people in a feed full of ads for weight loss supplements and unchecked disinformation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I know that. And I do believe Mastodon is superior tech-wise, safer and better.

But, at this moment, the people I look to reach are on Bluesky, none are on Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Again, that is not the discussion we are having.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"Im so tired of hearing that getting set up is easier in bluesky, you can do it like this on mastodon"

"That didn't set up my account, which includes getting a healthy following base"

...

"That's not the discussion we are having"

I'm another person but, are you sure it isn't? Setting up the account is not only creation, it's all the tweaks until it's useful for the user. If the user needs connections and searching for them is harder (due to how search works currently with federation) then setting up is indeed harder on Mastodon, which is the point the one you are responding to is reinforcing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

Not having users on the platform is not part of account set up, no.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that mean everyone is centralized on the same instance? I don't use Mastodon so I don't know if it's the same as here...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Not everyone. Just those users who don't care enough to be picky. I wish they would rotate the instances but this is better than nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry what do you mean? I see users posting from other instances in my mastodon app (I haven't used it much).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, what do you mean?

I see users posting from other instances in my mastodon app

Which would indicate that

everyone is centralized on the same instance?

is incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Idk this whole thread confuses me. I'm on est.social instance, I'm gonna assume I see everyone who hasnt excluded my instance and vice versa..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

It's a bit more complicated than that, but yes, that's the gist of it.