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IDF: We supplied 300 liters of fuel to Shifa, Hamas barred hospital from getting it
(www.timesofisrael.com)
this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2023
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I am incredibly skeptical of this story, but holy shit this is one of the funniest things I have seen on this site.
Again, I am incredibly skeptical of this story. But I REALLY hope it is true. Mostly because it is a sign of any form of humanity in an inhumane genocide. But partly to see your next act of mental gymnastics. Like, fuck Cirque du Soleil, this is where it is at.
You're quite right, some people just cannot see past their biases.
And Hamas taking it for themselves is perfectly believable.
The math is COMPLETE bullshit. Their power estimates are a farce and off by probably a factor of 10... There are other things then just the bed...
Citation needed.
What piece of ICU equipment do you think has a power draw over 1kW? That's more than a refrigerator....
The link adds up the power for a ventilator, two monitors, and eight pumps.
What would you like to add?
I mean... you generally want refrigerators for a lot of medicine (and I assume blood?).
But I also assume those are already fucked from the past few weeks.
You aren't going to be running at full capacity without providing power to the entire grid which has obvious implications with a war. But keeping the essential equipment running to keep kids and the like alive? I am not convinced they would be able to help everyone, but it would go a long way and be something that can be delivered with minimal risk of attacks en route and storage issues.
I never said the fuel is enough help everyone in the hospital. Far from it.
It is enough to power a certain number of ICU beds, for a few days, that would otherwise not be operational. That's not much, but it's not nothing.
Where's the mental gymnastics? My initial point is that it's NOTHING in terms of aid.
And the numbers given are dubious presumptions that assume modern, well kept, thousand dollar generators with modern ICU beds and no other equipment or auxiliary usage. It's not useful or realistic.
Hey, you asked and they answered. It's probably a few days of fuel for absolutely mission critical applications, but it's definitely something.
Sigh. You were doing so well but now you are just down to "fake news, fake news".
So some anonymous person on the internet did a couple of web searches and some back of the napkin simple multiplication, and suddenly for you that becomes the last word on the subject?
There is a fuckload more in a hospital that needs power in addition to an ICU bed. We don’t know what generators they’re using, the fuel consumed per hour, and how far a minimum power draw can go. We do know that the hospitals are so far over capacity that patients are everyplace, as are people seeking shelter.
It is fuck all for a single hospital.