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[–] [email protected] 28 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

So 68.1% of the American public are complicit. Worse than I thought TBH. Fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Complicit with genocide? That's everybody who voted actually.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, no, that's not how that works. We've got the electoral college, remember? There were 20 states that went blue. Any additional votes to Harris in those states wouldn't have made Trump win less, refraining to vote in those states ultimately didn't matter. You need to look at the percentage of people that didn't vote in states that went red. But I get it, its easier to blame everyone who didn't vote than to use critical thought.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

In the US it's legal for corporations to create propaganda outlets which stream nonstop lies designed to get sensitive individuals to vote fascists. It's impossible to have democratic elections and have completely disinformed and propagandized voters. Yet even after killing hundreds of thousands of conservative voters the courts have sided with the propaganda outlets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, these numbers are generally brought up to "show" how weak Trump support is. But, what I see is that leftists are not a majority, even among people that give a damn. So, if leftists are going to make any progress, they need to take concrete actions with whoever they can agree with for that project, instead of attacking other leftists (because they didn't vote e.g.) and going no-contact with everyone that's not as ideologically pure as yourself.

We have to build consensus and lead by example before we can win at the polls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Democrats arent leftists. Left of the the republicans isn't the same as being a leftist, and voting for democrats doesn't make you a leftist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I didn't say democracts were. But leftists that did vote voted D as harm reduction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The mistake here is assuming that the dems are left.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Where exactly did I say Dems are left? I self-identify as a (democratic) socialist, and there's plenty of infighting all over the left: anarchists, communists, etc.

I voted for the Dems, but that's harm reduction not agreement.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, pretending that it wasn't a landslide is a grand delusion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

"Yeah, pretending that it was~~n’t~~ a landslide is a grand delusion."

FTFY