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Recently there has been controversy around Mozilla Firefox.

I've been looking for an alternative but really struggling, seems like every alternative has a downside:

  • Vivaldi: Uses some proprietary code and likely not doing much better on the user data side of things, also based on Chromium.

  • Tor: Uses Tor protocol and so is quite slow, my ISP would probably also think I'm a drug lord.

  • Fennec: Basically looks the same as Firefox but guessing less up to date, F-Droid has a warning about it's using Mozilla services for tracking.

What are you guys using? Have you found anything good?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

IronFox is similar to what Mull was and similar-ish to fennec. You can also try Brave or Vanadium if you wish to go Chromium

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

+2, using it as my daily over vanadium

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Switching from Firefox to Chromium because of the latest Mozilla policy changes is insane. Google is ten times worse in every relevant aspect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Brave and Vanadium remove the google telemetry. Next complaint?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If telemetry is the problem, the rational thing to do is to use a fork/build of Firefox without the telemetry, not support the Google monopoly or go for browsers that have had potentially problematic privacy policies for a lot longer than Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

The issue is that any firefox-based browser on Android lack of per-site isolation unlike chromium browser. It's a security issue that Mozilla doesn't seem interested in fixing. And it does impact every fork such as IronFox (previously Mull)

I am mainly using Firefox engine on all my computers but on Android I am using either Vanadium when on GrapheneOS and a tweaked brave when not.

For me personnaly it has nothing to do with supporting Google's monopoly on web tech or not. It's not about telemetry either, it is a security concern.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think I might give IronFox a go, just a bit weary as never heard of it before, not sure who is the owner of the project and where they are based, GitLab project only has ~125 stars.

Have you ever used the Accrescent app store? That's their recommended option for installing it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't used Acrescent but I believe it's made by the GrapheneOS team. It's focused on security, rather than totally FOSS programs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure the Acrescent store is independent from Graphene OS - though they just seem to like the project so much they made it available in their own "App Store"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes this is more correct. They wanted to provide to their user an alternative store that meets their security criteria so GOS users can download and install other apps safely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago