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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (39 children)

I believe in nature, humans are regarded as persistence hunters. Which is to say we have incredible stamina and perseverance while hunting. Other creatures can run faster than us, but only for short stints, relatively speaking, as long as we can keep track of them, we can continue to pursue prey for hours or days without significant external assistance (food, water, rest, help from others, etc).

So regardless of what we may be trying to kill, if we continue to keep our focus on it, we can absolutely find and kill it, given a long enough timeframe.

This also explains marathons, quite frankly. I don't see too many animals just running for dozens of kilometers without a reason to do so. Many can't run that far, and those that could, generally never would... Unless they're running from us, I suppose.

Something like the cheetah, is very very fast in short duration, but after a few minutes of running at full speed, it's thermal regulation tends to fail and it is biologically required to stop or it will overheat and die.

Add to that our intellectual capacity for planning, the creation of tools to assist us, strategy, teamwork, and all the things that are associated with intelligence and we're basically a killing machine, if we choose to be....

Amazingly, we're also the only species that we know to exist that feels bad about eating our prey. I've never seen a lion have an existential breakdown after killing off a gazelle so it can eat, yet there's entire subcultures of people who refuse to cause any harm to their food. Have you people not understood the "circle of life"? Did you not watch the lion king?

Whatever. Go live your life. Weirdo.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (23 children)

The problem with eating meat is not the eating meat. I don't give a fuck if someone eats meat from an animal that hasn't suffered, that was free and in its natural habitat. I don't know if I would myself because after 15 years of not eating meat I don't think I'd still like it, but it's not unethical. The problem is the untold amount of widespread suffering and cruelty of beings with emotions and sentience and attachments and capacity for both physical and emotional pain that is industrial livestock farming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Someday I have a dream that the ADA relaxes its guidelines for certification that need everything to be so industrialized and monitored. And then, we could start selling meat of the "problem animals" that we have way too many of, like deer and boars. As long as they can stop people from breeding them (Hanoi Rat Massacre problems all over again) hunting could be a somewhat lucrative activity, and we wouldn't be contributing to global production problems by eating meat.

Of course, we'd need people to be aware that someday once those populations are under control, we'd have to change habits. And we know how people react to change...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then, we could start selling meat of the "problem animals" that we have way too many of

For a moment there I was thinking you were about to advocate for cannibalism... (sadly, prions are terrifying.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To my understanding (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) transmissions of prions disease is primarily through two methods, eating of brain matter, something most never do, even eating animals brain matter, or undercooked flesh (and/or bodily fluids - like blood, which ties into undercooked flesh).

So it should be safe in theory, as long as we properly cook the meat and don't eat the brain. Since we do the same for all of the meat we ingest, it should be fine....

Not that I'm going to go advocating for anyone eating human meat. I'm just saying, to my understanding, if we follow standard handling and cooking, we shouldn't really have any risk factors for prions disease. Personally, I'll stick to beef, chicken, turkey, lamb and pork. If it's all the same to everyone else.... And obviously some delicious veggies and fruits.

Related: prions disease can result from other sources, such as genetics or "sporadically"... According to the wiki article on it, but I'm strictly speaking about transmission of the disease.

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