this post was submitted on 22 Feb 2025
52 points (93.3% liked)
Games
34546 readers
1167 users here now
Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.
Weekly Threads:
Rules:
-
Submissions have to be related to games
-
No bigotry or harassment, be civil
-
No excessive self-promotion
-
Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts
-
Mark Spoilers and NSFW
-
No linking to piracy
More information about the community rules can be found here.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
If this were still two years ago, I might even hope for a GOG release. I have a hard time trusting Sony now since they started requiring PSN logins.
They're not requiring logins anymore. they're going to taunt with exclusively bonuses. Foregoing the required login.
They lifted it on four games but omitted some others, which isn't great, and they've shown a willingness to patch this in after the fact, so I still don't trust them. EA did the same thing with the likes of Jedi: Fallen Order and such, so they're on the same shit list.
Why? You have to login to Xbox for Xbox published games. You have to login into blizzard to play Diablo or overwatch fron steam, you have to log into EA launching from steam or Microsoft.
So why does a PSN account make you "untrusting"? You just want to cheat on those games or what?
Sony has stopped releasing games on GoG ever since they required login to the PSN. For example, you can buy God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn on GoG, but you can't buy Ragnarok or Forbidden West.
They lifted the requirement a few weeks ago, but the games still have not been released on GoG, and at this point it's doubtful they will.
I buy games on epic. I have never purchased a game or have installed gog. Idk get a boner over denuvo removal as denuvo doesn't effect the games I play
The history of sony data breaches. Also nobody wants any of those other accounts either, and diablo and overwatch look boring and manipulative as fuck and not everyone plays those. I haven't touched an ea game since nhl 98 on snes. I wanted to play horizon, god of war, and spiderman and there is no justification for enforcing log in for any of those.
Even if I wanted to cheat in some old God of War games (I don't), so what? Who does that hurt?
What I don't trust, for good reason, is that that server will always be there to authenticate my game. Allegedly it requires talking to their server at first install, and that works now in the year 2025, but who's to say it will be there in 2035?
Splinter Cell: Blacklist came out in 2013. A friend of mine bought it this past winter sale. The UPlay launcher that existed when that game came out has now been renamed and reworked, and the launcher that comes up when he tries to play it asks him for a product key that he was not provided (there is a function for this in the Steam overlay, and we checked, and it was not available for this game). Now I'm sure that he could eventually get it working if he had the patience to wait through Ubisoft support, but A) he shouldn't have to, and B) what if Ubisoft goes out of business in the next couple of years? That's not an unlikely scenario at this point, and all the online requirement did was introduce an additional point of failure in the thing that he paid money for. I'm old enough and have been playing games long enough to see these points of failure rear their heads plenty of times now.
The login requirement for the likes of Diablo 3 and 4 are exactly why I'm not buying Diablo 3 and 4. Honestly, even Steam's DRM, which isn't present on every game and usually works seamlessly, has still caused some friction for me lately, and every time it annoys me, I get that much closer to only buying games on GOG. The threat of these games getting an online requirement patched in after the fact is enough to make me rather emulate them than deal with that nonsense, if I was so inclined. If they put their games on GOG, I don't have to trust them, because it's impossible for them to do that to me.
That's not how it works but okay 👍
How do you require an online account without requiring internet access to that server?
How do you download the game without Internet?
Oh my god, do you think this is some kind of hypocrisy? If I have internet now and download a GOG game's installer to my hard drive now, I have it forever, even if I'm in a place without internet access like on a train. Even if GOG goes out of business. Even if Sony goes out of business. Even if the internet ceases to exist. When Blizzard turns the lights off on Diablo 4, that game is gone due to no fault of your own.