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House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration's authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Progressives need to start their own party. The establishment DNC is so entrenched with big donors and lobbyists that it is unable to serve the people. Their balancing act of appeasing both the right and the left is just serving to alienate everyone because the final policies get so diluted. They have become too stuck in the quagmire of their own doing. I don’t see the DNC being able to change any time soon and through their inaction, will only enable more devastation of the country.

The new Progressive party should align with the DNC as the opposition during this administration but simultaneously run more like minded candidates in the next elections with their own separate fundraising campaigns. That’s the only hope I have for meaningful change to happen.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

There's a free app called 5 calls. It helps you to call your representative with a script. Progressives need to get on this. I'm aware it's a pain, but the script makes it a lot easier especially when you get an answering machine instead of a person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's rather naive to think that phone calls will change anyone's mind in office. Money speaks, not phone calls.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

It's rather naive to throw out centuries of political theory because you can't be bothered to write / call / show up.

https://act.represent.us/sign/does-calling-congress-really-work

In fact the only thing they pay attention to more than calls is people physically showing to their offices.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s rather naive to throw out centuries of political theory because you can’t be bothered to write / call / show up.

Following centuries of political theory have led us to this point.

In fact the only thing they pay attention to more than calls is people physically showing to their offices.

Not really. The only thing they pay attention to is the amount on the check.

If calling really changed things, I'd be getting emails from TheDemocrats asking people to jump on a phone bank. All they are asking from me is "More Money to fight Donald Trump!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Do you not get those texts? I would understand if you blocked them but they are definitely being sent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Not anymore.... I blocked them after the 15th begging for "$50 dollars is all we need to defeat Trump!" on November 10th...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

The problem is you get the NDP/Liberal vs. Conservative effect when you do this. If you have 30% of the population vote for your Leftie, and 30% vote for the other Leftie, in a given congressional district, the Republican can win with 31%, despite 60% voting against the Republican. We need RCV before we can do this, and people need to understand that they MUST put the other party as choice 2 or we are back to ending up with a Republican.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The thing you're missing is that you'll tap into a whole new category of voters that have never had anyone to vote for before.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Ding. Both major parties have abandoned the working class, and a whole lot of people have given up on the system as a whole. Give a real choice that has a chance and people will turn up. But that means the politics-as-sports folks need to hang up their team colors, and that's only going to happen by spreading class consciousness. No war but class war.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

If Democrats are so scared of splitting the vote, they don't need to run a candidate. It's not like they're particularly interested in winning anyway.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 18 hours ago

This is why a new party needs to be built from the ground up, starting with local races that are uncontested or use ranked choice voting already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

I fail to see your point. That sounds like you have a 61 majority for the Republicans. The "Liberals" are aiding the Republicans getting power, as the article points out.

Also the Democrats are a pink washed far right party, by standards outsidr the US.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

That is indeed a problem that needs to be resolved, and likely through ranked choice voting. But as a country, we tend to focus too much on the presidential election. Change will have to start in the congressional elections - both at federal and state levels. The issue of votes splitting will be a lesser issue in these elections except in a few large districts. That will also be where smaller fundraising campaigns would go further.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Change starts at the dog catcher. That's how the maga morons did it. They ran for every single down ballot race, all the way to the bottom.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

That’s how the maga morons did it.

Hell, in my city, the local Dem committee helped the MAGA morons, by running against their own primary winner (A socialist). They were even dual dropping lit for the Chosen One they had in mind, plus the sheriff who is a MAGA nutter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

They just need to put the Trump party last (or whatever the shittiest party is at the time)... They can put anyone they want 2nd

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

Tell this to Bernie and other progressives. Seriously, if we call and email them, they might decide they even enough support to do such a thing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago

100% agreed, it’s time for a new party. Republican-lite is killing our nation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The Democratic party is dead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The Democratic party has just officially morphed into the Republican party of 30 years ago. They trotted out the Cheney's ffs.

Not like it matters. We're not voting our way out of this situation, the fascists won't let anyone take power back now that they have it. It's revolution or a technofeudal hellscape.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The DNC leadership are elected by people who are elected by us. Almost no one votes in those elections... Probably no one even knows they exist. But a well timed strategy of getting like 50 progressives to show up to each election and vote for progressive leadership is all it would take to replace every liberal in the party leadership with progressives... No reason to leave 2 conservative parties intact

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

So like, how do we do that? How do I help organize that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Can you clarify, who are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Aren't there already other progressive parties? Look how they're doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Anecdotal, but our chapter of the DSA (not radical enough for me, but it's what I've got around me) is growing rapidly. New member orientation has been standing-room-only since the election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

You should check out the Axios article they cite before you write them all off. The supposed "gripefest" is just Dems talking about how they're recieving hundreds if not thousands of phone calls a day.