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[–] [email protected] 193 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Jeep is a Stellantis product. Literally the worst quality auto manufacturer in North America. They are circling the drain and jacking up the prices on their vehicles and making Pikachu faces when they don't sell. Their only customers are people who don't know how to research their purchases, and putting advertisement hell into their cars is another example of that. I suspect they will not be in business a decade from now.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I work in the auto industry. Can confirm, Stellantis is in bad shape. I wouldn't buy anything from them.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What's confusing is that some great auto brands from Europe are under Stellantis (Peugeot and Citroen at least)

And they're actually not doing a shitty job in designing or selling their vehicles. It's mainly the Chrysler brands or basically the US brands under Stellantis. I seriously hope the shit happening in Chrysler doesn't come trickling down to the other brands

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Turns out regulations are good for businesses.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Regulations are definitely excellent for both businesses and consumers in the long term. But businesses are often too stupid to see past ANYTHING "quarterly".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

That depends on the business culture and how good their advisors are. And also the size if the business matter.

But yeah generally angelosaxton companies who have a mangement structure that’s way more in depth than it needs to be fuck these things over

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

"Either the Line Goes Up or the Rope Goes Up" - evil CEOs everywhere

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

They're good for longevity, but they're bad for quarterly profits. In the US, we care much more for the latter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Peugeot and Citroën have their own issues in Europe (and technically in America) with the recall of car due to defective airbags.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, who would you buy from?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago

Out of the American big three, I have the most confidence in Ford. I've worked with engineers at all three, and the ones at Ford are the ones that I felt were most compitent.

That being said, my next car will probably be a Toyota or a Subaru. Both way better than the American OEMs.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

Jeep Renegade is a rebadged Fiat 500L.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It'll be less than a decade

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I had two Jeeps, first was originally my dad's. It was an old shitbox. The other one was a somewhat old shitbox. 1998 & 2010. We dumped more time and money into them than I'd care to admit.