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Fucking Hell. Like the Nazis burning their Records.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

How exactly is there such a thing as a records system not subject to FOIA?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The article says that the administration seems to be claiming the executive order where they changed the name of United States Digital Service to United States DOGE Service allows them to make the sweeping changes they are making. This is of course ludicrously beyond the pale when it comes to data security violations involved in taking control of data managed by other agencies and getting involved in their staffing. It's a smokescreen for autocracy.

The claim in this particular instance is that they are saying the executive order redefined the reporting structure of the department. Where previously they reported to the Office of Management and Budget, where everything is subject to FOIA requests in the short term, they claim their USDS reports to the White House Chief of Staff and therefore is shielded from FOIA during the current administration. We can theoretically get the data later (I'm sure they'll be very responsible with chain of custody on such important data 🙄) but it will be 4 years later, when no one cares because we're in the trenches dealing with the long term consequences of what's happening right now. So, it is subject to FOIA, yes. But they're making up stories and betting the courts won't dare to challenge them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago

The fact that they are moving so quickly tells you they don't think what they are doing is legal.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago

But they're making up stories and betting the courts won't dare to challenge them.

No, it's worse than that. They know the Supreme Court will rule on their side no matter how ludicrous the reasoning is. See: the Dobbs decision.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Pen, paper, a trash can, and a lighter

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Even paper records are supposed to be saved.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes "supposed to be". But do you really expect that from anyone in this administration?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Am I nuts or during his first term wasn’t there a story about Trump literally eating a piece of paper after he read it??

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

He did that shit regularly. Also tore them into bits, and aides would pick them up and try to tape them back together.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

He probably thought it was a very flat hamberder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Do they record phone calls and face to face communication?