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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Accelerationism has made things worse for everyone. Now we have a US president who has declared his intention to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip of Palestinians. If you want things to get better then you have to act in a way that is useful to that end. That means voting for parties that are to the left of fascists and that have a chance of winning. In the US, that's the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

This is not a particularly helpful message for the time being since the election is past and won't be for a while at best.
This is more a wish on what could have been and leaves little room for current discourse when this is a dead end topic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago

I don't think that legitimate elections are happening in 4 years. They're gutting everything and installing their flunkies just as they said they would in p2025.

The last election is where democracy died.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I am afraid that the time to vote your way out of this is at an end. There is no way Republicans will willingly give up all three branches of government.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I am afraid that the time to vote your way out of this is at an end. There is no way Republicans will willingly give up all three branches of government.

Musk has control of the US Treasury Department payment system. Obviously not. Fascists don't hold elections.

I'm trying to get people to act in their own self-interest. It may be too late for us, but someone might learn something someday. People who survive the collapse of the US and climate change might make better choices.

If we don't tell people what went wrong here they will do it again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh by all means talk about what went wrong. Recording history is vital. I'm just saying voting your way out of this won't happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Also, not every country has been taken over by fascists yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Who's gonna fight the us?? Lmfao.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

They don't have to fight the US, they just have to help the north secede from the south.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You can't make the survival of democracy hinge on everybody having to vote for you because else it would be getting even worse. You actually have to present an option that promises that things get better. Significantly even, since most people in the US are absolutely struggling.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As voters we had the opportunity to prevent fascism for four more years by voting for neoliberals. This would have given progressives and socialists another opportunity to co-opt the Democrat party. The failure of the Democrats to provide a compelling alternative does not mean we should be complicit in our own destruction and allow fascists to murder us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm seeing a lot of voter bashing but the same Democrats in power. I get the criticism against voters. They should have voted neoliberal. But the Democrats set this vote up to fail. They just don't seem to get any consequences for it.