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I'm sure the Palestinians are grateful the Democrats didn't win.
I’m sorry to disappoint you but we are unhappy with both parties. Biden is an absolute devil for allowing this genocide to unfold and providing both weapons and rhetorical and political support. Trump is an absolute devil too, the difference is that he’s absolutely unhinged and says the quiet part out loud.
I feel sorry for the domestical issues this is causing you now and the general chaos this guy creates but for us Palestinians Democrats and Republicans aren’t much different in their support for Zionism.
The 40k+ dead under a dem president probably don't care one way or the other.
But they didn't promise to stop it, so voting for fascism was the only alternative!
Have more alternatives in the voting booth by passing state level electoral reform! Then people could vote for who they want and still have their vote count against the Republicans.
Who could possibly say no to having more then one chance to beat the Republicans?
Yeah, fair voting is over in the US. You can't remove fascism at the voting booth.
What would a Democratic win have changed here? Have you already forgotten then 15 previous months where Democrats were sending Israel cash, jets, 2,000lb bombs, arms, and every other tool they needed to continue their genocide?
NO FACTS ALLOWED! ONLY HATE FOR THIRD PARTIES!
I'm half convinced that these are just bots here to drum up infighting as any post mentioning Israel seems to get flooded with these comments, and almost none of the commenters ever respond to replies.
Oh, they respond. Turns into days long flame war if you don't just stop responding yourself. Still bots afaict though, either that or extremely confident idiots.
Do you think the "days long flame war" might not happen if you didn't do things like call people idiots?
Yes. I think if liberals didn't call people who couldn't bring themselves to vote pro-genocide "idiots" then the flame wars wouldn't go on.
You're the one I see calling people idiots right now.
I haven't done that, like, at all.
Pardon me, it was the person I originally replied to. You just decided to butt your way in after they started calling people idiots to claim that's not what other people are doing for some reason.
Well, liberals have been calling all non Kfans idiots.... so, you understand why it devolves so quickly, right?
You are literally defending the only person calling anyone an idiot. So yes, I do understand why it devolves so quickly. Because the two of you also think it's okay to call people idiots.
Maybe don't insult anyone even if they insult you?
YOU have called ME an idiot, unprovoked, in other threads.
Pot. Kettle.
FlyingSquid will never be wrong and if you keep going they turn to emotional manipulation and abuse with threatening suicide and making horrible statements about their life in order to drag you to sympathize for them after they have been rude and unsympathetic to you.
I don't think they are a bot but I think they are one of the worst people to discuss with on the platform for their own personal reasons.
Yeah, I've blocked them. I can tell, at minimally, they were not interested in any good faith discussion.
Yeah I try not to block since it lets people still comment on your stuff unheeded and without response but it is far better for mental health to just block and not deal with it. They do not handle conversation well and a lot of the louder Lemmings view conversations as a winner takes all brawl for superiority through mob support of upvotes.
Just so you know FlyingSquid is also one of the largest posters on lemmy.world and you may see less if you stick to .world communities.
That is a lie.
THIS thread, even...
That is also a lie.
^ This guy IMMEDIATELY starts a flame war with someone else under the same comment. Holy fuck man.
You mean a "flame war" where I never insulted anyone?
Sounds like a pretty one-sided war.
Interesting, also, that you are defending the person who just out-and-out lied about me calling them and other people idiots.
Here he goes.
I didn't insult you either. It seems like you both really want me to, but I have no interest in doing so.
What evidence do you have that Kamala would have opposed this idea as president? Has she released any recent statement condemning the idea? It's actually a lot easier for her to do so now than it would have been with her as president. She's a private citizen now; she need not fear AIPAC campaign dollars. She need not fear offending Biden. She's not lifting a finger to condemn the idea now, when she faces zero downside in doing so. What makes you think she would have opposed it as president?
Sure, Trump is a lot more vocal in his support of ethnic cleansing than Kamala would have been. But I think Kamala would have simply looked the other way and refused to intervene if Israel attempted it. I see zero indication in her actual behavior that she would have intervened if she was currently president.
If the end result is the same I would certainly rather have non-fascist fucks in office
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Are you seriously arguing that we didn't know what Kamala would do on this so Trump, who was very clear about it, was a better alternative?
Biden literally sanctioned them just for settling, Trump reversed it.
Of course this wouldn't have happened under Kamala. It may have dragged on for a bit, but they delayed the ceasefire until Trump got in, if he lost - they were down bad in an increasingly worsening PR situation and were somewhat tied to that. Now they don't care, look at them. Probably launch gaza baby NFTs and pocket the profits too just for kicks.
Straight into the west bank as Adelson paid $100m for the privlege, and now celebrating an ethnic clensing. There won't be a palestine at the end of this term.
How many people did Biden sanction? List the names.
Do you understand why we keep saying everything Biden "did to help" was symbolic and completely worthless? That he did those things while vetoing ceasefires at the UN and sending tens of billions of dollars in bombs for them to commit mass murder with? That this is the behavior of an actual psychopath who's complicit in genocide?
The sooner you all stop running from reality, the sooner we can start fixing this.
You seem not to realise the way to "fixing this' is through a political process and you fuckers are locked in for 4 years of a dude who doesn't know what shame it's.
that's very optimistic
The political process enables it.
Don't waste your breath, these people don't even know what the West Bank is
Frankly I doubt they give a fuck, this was the outcome for them either way.