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Trump administration says it has begun deporting migrants to Guantánamo Bay
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 04 Feb 2025
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Sure would have been nice if Obama or Biden had actually closed Guantanamo Bay when they had the chance.
I liked to find silver linings where I can, and what I'm hoping is that when the shambles of the American government finally get back into Democratic hands (or whatever opposition party replaces them, at this point) there will finally be a realization that actual for real change is needed. Democratic politicians have been just treading water for decades now.
Biden's administration used the camps Trump created to deport people.
I'm not American so I could be way off but didn't they try but were blocked by Republicans? At the very least they reduced the count of inmates to only the more complicated ones (ie. where do they get sent to, what do we, do we completely fried this guys brain, etc)
Yeah I remember Obama wanted to close it, but then the big question of where to move the prisoners to in the US had to be answered, and nobody wanted to hold them. It was politically dead at that point.
From what I recall about the reasoning behind abandoning the idea of closing Guantanamo Bay, the only options were releasing them in central park or keeping them in Guantanamo Bay.
I could definitely see that being a right wing talking point at the time.
Obama could have pardoned the prisoners and apologized for holding them for many years without trial, in blatant violation of the plain text in the US Constitution.
Non-citizens detained in war don't have the same rights as US citizens.
Some of those people were guilty and should have been tried and jailed here (provided they could safely be held here).
if so, why weren't they tried and sentenced?
Because placing them in Guantanamo meant no one had to actually figure out where/how to house these people safely.
Isn't that what jails are for? in USA you have a ton of those I hear... if these people were guilty of anything, surely there would be zero trouble charging them (specially in the Kangaroo Military courts of the USA). Once convicted you can put them in any jail of your liking
Yes, and keeping these people safe in US federal prisons was going to be difficult. Many of them would have been murdered/assaulted due to how poorly the US manages the prison system.
So instead they are kept uncharged and untried forever in Guantanamo??? where they are nicely safe and comfortable and not being tortured at all? for THEIR safety? got it
“Because placing them in Guantanamo meant no one had to actually figure out where/how to house these people safely.”
I refer you back to my initial comment
confirming circular logic is circular... got it
I hope we all survive long enough for that to happen
Hahaha
Bold of you to assume that'll happen in our lifetime.
Unfortunately, I've just seen the "opposition" just fall in line. A bunch of spineless geriatric Nazi sympathizers.
Right, because what Trump is doing is Biden’s and Obama’s fault…
As much as I hate trump, and boy oh boy do I hate him and elon so much I refuse to even capitalize their names, this is something that Bush started, and then Obama and Biden (and ESPECIALLY OBAMA) had the golden opportunity to do something about during their terms, Obama could have shut it down in 09-10 specifically with the full backing of congress; and they both chose to do nothing and let it remain.
So now we get humans rights violations being committed on migrants instead of just "terrorists".
Yes Trump is expanding on the human rights violations Obama and Biden put in place.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/03/donald-trump-american-exceptionalism-guantanamo-bay-imperialism-billionaires
You say Biden and Obama put in place, and then copy/paste something that a president prior to them in office did. What exactly are you saying they did?
Did the $130 million Biden gave to a private contractor to run Guantanamo appear out of thin air?