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[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Liberal means PRO LIBERTY. Its right there in the fucking name leftoids

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Liberalism means PRO CAPITALISM.

The first sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism:

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.

From the first paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property†:

Private property is foundational to capitalism, an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

Liberalism: A Counter-History (online copy)

†Not to be confused with personal property.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That line says nothing about capitalism. Pro ownership? That is a tenet of some branches of leftism. I dont agree with corporations or the state having a monopoly on land ownership. Though the government cant come and take an individuals shit for no reason. Being an abusive billionaire though has an asterisk in the foot notes.

Though I'd argue that anyone owning shit comes a large and wide second or 3rd to human rights.

philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed

It says it right there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Liberal means pro capitalist liberty. Nothing about personal freedom, equity and social safety nets in that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed

Okay buddy. You guys just want to twist a good ideology into a wedge issue. The only thing vaguely "capitalist" about a liberal is the belief that the government isnt allowed to seize your shit unlawfully. The right to own property comes way after personal liberty in my book. That means billionaires dont get a pass for abusing the populace.