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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So to put the likelihood of this in perspective, let me just repeat it to see if I understand the claim.

You're saying that one of the big reasons of Windows' market share is how artificially inefficient it is to install Linux, spin up a Virtual Machine, run Windows inside THAT and then run a game?

That's the mainstream use case that is propping up Windows adoption in this scenario?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The main thing propping up Windows as the main OS (meaning it is running at the root layer) is exclusive hardware GPU support which is used for gaming & many apps. Otherwise, automating running Windows apps & Windows on Linux would have become much more mainstream.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is demonstrably wrong on a scale where it loops around to becoming hard to explain, so that's a neat trick.

There are enough people who have never heard of or don't understand the concept of virtual machines to keep Windows as the biggest mainstream OS several times over. There isn't a "root layer" in computers as far as normal humans are concerned. They're computers and then a Windows pops up and that's how that works.

At the very most, they understand conversion layers on the basis of having gone from an old Macbook to a new Macbook, and even that is like a tenth of the market (still several times bigger than Linux adoption, though).

The idea that a mass of people are waiting on the sidelines, chomping at the bit for direct GPU access through an extra layer of software fine tuning to be able to run some brand name Windows app with no Linux version is absurd. Even games are not the problem, as evidenced by that being mostly solved via Proton and not changing much.

I don't mind either way, but man, consider what other assumptions you may be making that are wildly off, particularly if they're on something more important than your hopes for relative OS market share on home computers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know what is wrong, is that you come along & talk about how no one wants to use virtual machines because it is difficult. I just got done saying someone would have automated the process. You act like no one would have the choice but for it to be cumbersome & difficult. That is called a tiny brain thought process..

They can't do it right now cause vGPU is not supported on almost all consumer cards. There is absolutely a "root" layer BTW, in this case it would be the Linux kernel. It is far more technical than computers & then Windows "pops up." Seriously, it is obvious you have no clue what you're talking about, yet you're here spewing false information, for what purpose?

People are waiting on the sidelines for a better OS, where they can feel less invaded by Windows bloat & invasiveness but where they can still play their games & run their Windows apps, which Wine doesn't support everything. Thinks like Adobe products or Office solutions, a lot of users rely on these for work. Proton doesn't solve everything. I appreciate optimism, but then there is also the real world.

Consider your assumptions, that you believe developers are so dumb that if users could use virtual GPUs on consumer cards, that developers wouldn't be able to automate a solution that makes it simple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

They already made it simple, are you kidding me? You are running a different OS inside an entrirely fictitious computer that doesn't exist, and it takes a few clicks to set up on stock software that comes with your OS or is freely downloadable online. The whole thing is magic.

Magic that is still way below the awareness of common users. I'm not acting like "no one" wants to use VMs, I'm telling you that, at scale, this is not key functionality for the vast majority of the userbase. Which is entirely accurate.

And because the vast majority of the userbase is on Windows and doesn't even know this would be a problem, that's not WHY they're on Windows or not on Linux. It's not even a "tiny brain" thing, it's just what people use (and don't use) computers for.