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To Pay for Trump Tax Cuts, House GOP Floats Plan to Slash Benefits for the Poor and Working Class (www.propublica.org)

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Socialism for the Rich. Rugged individualism for the Poor.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand why do people upvote this.

Fuck so-called socialism, anarchism, communism and other far-left or extreme ideologies, and collectivism too (where everyone is poor).

Individualism made living for the people better. Democracies were based on individualism (and liberalism), where they care about every person.

What do you need is to not to build another system, but to make rule of law and regulations strong. In the EU, for example, and around the world, there is problem not in social democracy/liberal democracy, but with economic inequality.

But you're just want to trick Americans to another utopia, fairytales like "capitalism = evil". It will eventually turn into chaos, tyranny, and then there will dictator after dictator. Again, there will be small group of rich people, who will be oppress everyone, deprive food from them, don't care about basic needs of population. They will steal resources from the country, but regular people in the country will be poor.

Look at Russia or China, where they also thought that all problems with

If individualism is so great and socialism so horrible why do the rich get constant support from the government? Shouldn't they be the best at being individuals? Why is it the poor are expected to make do with little to no help? But the rich walk into the upper reaches of government for simply graduating high school?

You say if we get rid of our economic system it will cause a resurgence of a small ruling elite who will oppress everyone, deprive them of food. And they won't care about the basic needs of the population. Did you not see Trump turn off Medicaid? Have you not checked the grocery prices lately?

You also make the mistake of an either/or fallacy. It's either unregulated capitalism, or centrally planned communism. But that's just not how the world works. For example we can have a market economy with government administered health, education, telecoms, and mass transit. A guaranteed job program is not incompatible with private industry.

Finally, you responded to a sarcastic remark about how our country treats the different classes with this utterly crap take that ironically demonstrates the exact problem. The second someone mentions the dreaded S word the woodworks bleed people running to shout about Totalitarian rule like we would be forced to give up Democracy. All to defend the system that supports people who were born with a silver spoon and oppresses those born into a family of debt.

As a note - Something to think about, the Annual US GDP is 27 Trillion dollars. Evenly split among all adults that's over 100,000 dollars. Hardly poverty...