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Another day, another news article on how Trump turned out to be SO MUCH WORSE (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fucking incredible how far you’ll go to blame everyone but the people responsible for the loss. Oh, did Harris’ shitty campaign cause widespread voter apathy? Don’t blame the campaign for that,

I've said numerous times that Harris ran a shit campaign, and that she's to blame.

blame the people who talked about it too openly.

Oh, is that what you think I'm criticizing? People saying "Harris is running a poor campaign"?

Oh, you wanted a, “United Front,” against Trump? Do you blame Harris for failing to unite the party behind her? You know, the fucking job of a leader? Nope, it’s the lefts fault for not falling in line.

Literally and explicitly said, to you, in this conversation, that the left wasn't the lynchpin of any of this. But who needs facts when you have windmills to tilt against?

Like, I don’t even know what to do with this anymore. You’re watching the Democratic coalition collapsed under the party’s mismanagement, and you’re blaming the coalition instead of party. Get a grip, Pug, FFS.

You're watching 90 million people say they don't care if fascism wins, so long as those horrible LIBERAL ELITES lose; and then saying that's not the voters punishing the powerless for the sins of the powerful.

Is this more hypocrisy, or more cognitive dissonance?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Literally and explicitly said, to you, in this conversation, that the left wasn't the lynchpin of any of this. But who needs facts when you have windmills to tilt against?

Last point I'm gonna make here, then I need to move on with my life. I'm not saying that if the left united behind Harris it would have turned the tide, I'm just responding to your demand for obedience from the left instead of leadership from the party. For the record, no, I highly doubt that, if all the people who cast protest votes instead voted for Harris, it would have changed the outcome.

For Harris to have won, she would have needed to win all the votes she lost to apathy. Most people who don't like a candidate don't stay home in protest or vote third party, they just convince themselves that one vote doesn't matter and decide to do laundry or cook dinner instead of standing in a poll line.

So I'm not gonna blame voters for being unmotivated, I'm gonna blame Harris for not motivating them. I'm not going to blame protest voters for withholding their vote, I'm gonna blame Harris for not addressing their protest. I'm not gonna blame critics of Harris for being too vocal, I'm going to blame Harris for giving us so much to criticize. Because only an idiot would think it's more productive to scold the 275 million Americans who didn't vote for Harris instead of demanding change from the handful of Democrats who run the party. Now that's tilting against windmills, Pug.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

So I’m not gonna blame voters for being unmotivated, I’m gonna blame Harris for not motivating them.

Sorry that you think that being apathetically welcoming towards literal fascism is excusable.