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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

These weapons would not sell themselves.
Also, is not France a closer ally of US?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They deserve to be, for their historical support and democratic roots, but we are too uncool and therefore vibe with the English instead

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It raises an interesting question: which is the actual coolest European country? I feel like Italy would have a pretty strong argument.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will support your nomination.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Aw, thank you. I guess I am pretty cool. I'm calling that the end of the poll!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We literally would not be the US if it weren’t for France, they sent a ton of troops to support us during and even a bit after the American Revolutionary War.

Huge shoutout to Spain as well for their help.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We owe a tremendous debt to Lafayette. We will not forget it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Did you forget Lafayette? Have you an ounce of regret?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

After the War of 1812, the UK started to recognize the USA as a local power it had to deal with diplomaticly instead of with war. This gets shown in the negotiation of the 49th parallel and its maintaining of the Monroe Doctrine. Hell, the USA almost declared war against France after the Civil War to liberate Mexico.

Post World War I, the UK seemed to be the better ally. The UK was more willing to let the USA expand into core imperial territories during and after World War II. The USA didn't have to fight a post British imperial war like it did for France in Vietnam. You also had the UK fall in line in NATO while France didn't.

France would have been the better natural ally, but things change over time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But they speak French... /S

So France was the first ally of the US. Recognizing it as a country before the end the revolutionary war. Though that was mostly to piss the UK off.

They have always kind of been a bit of frienemies. With various different geopolitical slights over the years. I have always thought that a lot has to do with who gets to be the lingua franca and the center of science and learning.