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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe the political party should have conformed to the pressure of the people who vote in its party. Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Who? People go on about how if we just told Israel to drop dead, voters would turn out in the millions, but what actual numbers are there to back it up? The majority of people willing to left the world burn as protest are young and statistically, they don't vote, the issues be damned.

The simple reality is that this "Silent majority" of far leftists Internet pundits want the Democratic Party to appeal to does not exist. Biden didn't try to appeal to these people, because they were never really going to turn out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

These numbers

https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/postelection-polling

By a more than three-to-one margin, Biden 2020 voters who did not vote for Harris say they would have been more likely to have voted for Harris if she “pledged to break from President Biden's policy toward Gaza by promising to withhold additional weapons to Israel” rather than less likely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Dems would rather lose than appeal to what americans actually want.

Also funny to imagine protest voters being powerful enough to sway the election but not powerful enough for Dems to listen to

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There is no reality in which America jeopardizes its relationship with its most important ally in the middle east.

Simply not an option.

So now we get to watch Dipshit Donny give Netanyahu free reign to turn Palestine to dust.

But if you're implying that Dems should have lied like Republicans lie and told their constituents that they'd stop supporting Israel in order to get re-elected, then yeah, they absolutely should have done that to prevent what we're about to experience.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Israel is not an ally to the US.

Allies don't need to spend millions in donations to Congress and presidental candidate.

Allies don't launch and support campaign to attack (anti-apartheid) protesters and candidates.

Allies, don't attack US military and blame it on Arab.

Allies don't protect pedophile and refuse to sign a extradition agreement.