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Trump to lift pause on 2,000-pound bomb supply to Israel, Walla News reports
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Not to beat the dead horse but... Those who said "I won't vote Democratic because Gaza" were either lying or delusional.
In 2028 there won't be any Gaza, what will be the next line?
People who still believe you have to choice either between red and blue are delusional.
That's just self-indugent tribalist scapegoating using an argument which is circular and self-disproving.
All I see here and now is people making a pseudo-"argument" that is entirelly reliant on the axiom that "the boss is always right" to manage to somehow blame millions for something which the "the boss" could have (per the part of that very same pseudo-"argument" which claims it was the people who were against the Israeli Genocide that sawyed the vote) easilly avoided by just meaningufully changing his position on just that one subject. That presumption that the leaders are blameless and it's the peons who are to blame for not being willing to follow the leaders no mater what they were doing, is a 100% subservient mindset.
If you're going to assign blame for Trump, look at the handful of people in the Democrat Party who chose to do things in such a way that the results was that millions of their own electorate chose not to vote for them, thus delivering the election to Trump.
And the gold medal for mental gymnastics goes to...
Sorry, didn't pass the second line because you failed to understand what I say.
I'm not saying Biden is good for Gaza. I'm saying if your concern is Gaza, Trump is not better. So for a meaningless virtue signaling, everything else is worse.
One way to end a genocide is to 100% the ethnic cleansing.
Yeah, but when do they ever stop at just one group? When the Nazis started running low on Jews to scapegoat, they expanded their operation to include gays, gypsies, handicapped...etc.
This is the tragic truth.
The most frustrating part about it is that withholding votes was framed as a principled position. And I’m sorry, but that’s asinine. How many of those people who declared that they wouldn’t vote for the democratic ticket because of their action/inaction on Gaza actually did anything more than posting rants on social media? How many raised funds for aid? How many organized rallies, protests, or educational outreach? How many even so much as contacted their representatives?
It is either naivety or complacency to believe that national policy should change just because you and your friends sent around some memes. And it is callous indifference to base your vote on a single issue and then claim that you’re inhabiting the moral high ground.
If you yell into the void, you shouldn’t expect a response. And if you believe in an issue, either take action or acknowledge that it would be staggeringly arrogant to expect other people to put in work that you yourself won’t do.
The American non-Republican voters were played like a fiddle. Long live Tik Tok who fed the indignation and enabled Trump's victory!
I really tried to tell them, but the propaganda is insane.
I think most of them were state sponsored psyops or really shit trolls. I don't think most actual real marginally rational thinking people would have such a dumb af take.
Trump being elected is enough proof for me to realize most people in our country have dumb af takes.
You would think, and yet they're still around parrotting the same narrative. Hell, there's at least one in the comments of this very post.
Assuming that anyone with a contrary opinion, no matter how ridiculous you might feel it is, is being disingenuous is an easy way to underestimate them.
As if you need any additional evidence how .ml and their spinoffs are funded
I don't think most Americans care enough about Gaza for it to affect their vote (or for it to cause them to choose not to vote). Some, certainly, but not enough to have made a difference. This was about groceries being expensive.
The numbers seem to tell a different story, actually. Mind you, this is one poll and it’s among people who did not vote giving a reason for not voting after having not voted, but the numbers aren’t insignificant
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/kamala-harris-gaza-israel-biden-election-poll?r=2y9nd&showWelcomeOnShare=false
It was a combined effort to suppress voter turnout. Provide every possible reason to tap into that bernie bro "the democrats deserve to lose because they betrayed me" mindset.
TBH the Dems deserved to lose, but Trump deserved to lose much, much, much, much harder.
The problem being that means too many people don't show up, and only the fanatics get a say. And they have a lot more than us.
That's exactly my point. People should go and vote against fascism, but apparently they won't.
And Harris wasn't inspiring enough to get them out to vote for her instead of just against him.
Your point seemed to be "She sucks, maybe not as much as the other guy, but still sucks", which is not exactly inspiring in and of itself. maybe you should do less to try and discredit the currently most viable defense we have against people like Trump.
You have serious problems if you needs additional inspiration beyond literal fascism.
Thank God some lemmys here have actual brains. These folks will scream up and down the street to anyone who will listen how horrible the Dem candidate is, and then wonder why voter turnout is low despite swearing they "totally went out and voted for Dems" even when they didn't want to. Sure.
I never spoke out about the Dem candidate before the election. It had its stakes, and backing the blue no matter who made sense then.
After the election loss, now, is the time to reflect and see what went wrong.
You can't replace the voters, so if nothing changes now, nothing will change in four years
That fake "Bernie bro" mindset, you mean. No genuine Bernie bro failed to vote (D) in the general, by definition, because that's what Bernie himself recommended.
They've already made inroads into the West Bank, Syria, and Lebanon, right?