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At that point you should just get a tankless and never have your shower cry sessions interrupted by cold water again.
I'd rather be able to shower with no power tbh..specifically opted for at.ospheric for that reason. Much cheaper to buy upfront and works in the event of big storms etc.. tankless can suck my dirty nuts but I see the appeal, kinda..
Unless you're showering in the basement, then your pump doesn't work, and you'll flood the basement as soon as you fill up the waste water tank.
That's... what?
In my home there aren't any pumps.
Water comes in, under pressure, from the city to my water outlets around the house.
Waste water goes down a drain and out into the cities sewage system completely by gravity.
Does the hot water heater also use the pressure from the main line?
That's how all hot water heaters work. His just uses natural gas instead of electricity.
A gas water heater is still going to have an electric start.
My gas hot water heater does not have an electric start.
Not if it's a tank system. They can, but they don't have to, since the pilot stays lit all the time. A tankless system has to use some power since it cycles every time you use it.
Our tankless system has a pilot that stays lit all the time. 🤷
None that requires the house electricity. Piezo, batteries easily work.
Some use a 9v battery on their starter.
Regardless, you can just use a match if you want to.
In either case, they don't require mains power.
(Sure, there are different models, etc. but it's not a requirement that all have an electric start, or a mains electric start)
How does gravity pump the water from a basement UP? Sump pumps are used.
I don't have a basement.
I have a crawlspace, the plumbing is all in the crawlspace.
Water doesn't need to be pumped up from the crawlspace because the lines are under pressure from the city main.
Now, if the city water distribution system was down I wouldn't have fresh water, but there are zero water pumps in my home.
As for sewage, the sewer lines are below all my plumbing, so gravity is enough to drain them.
Then the comment obviously doesn't relate to you. I stated in the first comment about a basement.
If you don't have a basement, you can't shower in your basement..
I have a basement...I can and do shower in my basement. No weird pumps required and I can disconnect the house from the main and still have hot water.
It's specific to your area where this weird ass pump is required.
I can also disconnect from the main and have hot water. Not sure what a water heater has anything to do with pumping the basement waste water out to the city/septic tank.
It's definitely not specific to my area. Septic tanks are common around the world, for example.
What are you even talking about anymore...the whole point was that atmospheric can be ran without power and still provide hot water.
Stop talking about waste water and pumps and septic. It has nothing to do with the conversation.
I live in the US, my sewer pipes are lower than the basement. No pumps are required where I live to shower or do laundry in the he basement.
In a basement, the waste water is pumped up into the sewer drain. No electricity means that pump doesn't work, the ejector pump pit fills up and floods the basement. If you have a shower in the basement, you likely also have a toilet in the basement, so when that pit floods, it's "not a good time."
That's not how it works were I live.
There are no pumps involved. Fresh water pipes are under pressure from the city water distribution system. Sewage pipes drain via gravity.
There is never a reason to 'pump' sewage because the city sewage lines are below any sewage lines in my house.
This must be a regional thing. I've never heard of this. The sewers are still further down than my parents basement.
Do you have some sort of poop rated pump?
Yes, it's like a regular sump pump, except it's got a large intake and a grinder.
I can see where in older neighborhoods, more urban, where the sewer system existed before the residential, that sewer would still be lower than basements. Or maybe when the residential is much nearer to the water treatment facility, and it's at the lower end of its slope to get there. New subdivisions on what used to be farmland, way away from water treatment, I'm sure they don't dig the sewers as deep, and do ejector and sump pumps in the basements.