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I keep hearing on VPN ads that you have to use a VPN to not have your login information stolen. So far I have been using Cloudflare WARP to be safe enough. However, if I am using an HTTPS website, do I really need a VPN or WARP? Will an attacker on the same network as me be able to access passwords transmitted over HTTPS?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yes you're good. The ads are basically lying, or at least vastly overblowing the importance of VPN. It's nice to have in some situations, but no, hackers won't immediately pwn you as soon as you connect to a McDonald's wifi.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was just a few years ago, before everything on the Internet was HTTPS, that using a public Wi-Fi was pretty dangerous, in terms of exposing your login credentials and traffic.

Even today, it's possible that some random sites might be HTTP only, but it's unlikely.

But even then, anyone on the same network can still see what sites you are going to, just not what's being said.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most (all?) Http sites now give an angry "WARNING" message, and you need to hop through menus to access them.

So most people should be safe probably

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think that it is actually your browser warning you, so you should see it on every http site.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It was just a few years ago, before everything on the Internet was HTTPS,

It's been more than a decade since that was the case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is not completely true. Try to look at email from shops (for campaigns etc.), and you will see tons of click-tracking links that go through HTTP. Any of that gets hijacked, and you have an avenue to be phished. DNS integrity is key, and a VPN being a layer 3 control (i.e., at the network level, not the application level) helps preventing some of these attack vectors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you do some sort if captive portal login even with VPN, you could still get pwned.