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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah no shit, america is a melting pot and it’s food culture is an amalgamation of foods from other cultures

And frankly some aspects of most of those are spurious. The origin of the hamburger is debatable mainly because before america it was (probably) just a mince patty served with sauce, much closer to what japan serves as hambagu/ハンバーグ. It likely wasn’t until it came through shipping ports to america that it was served on bread, ground instead of minced (though this was likely a function of the era), and eventually over time evolved to the modern version of what we consider a “hamburger”

Mac and cheese actually goes back to medieval england and was closer to a lasagna. The extruded version is also probably england, or possibly france. Unless you’re simply attributing dried pasta, which is probably an italian invention, but may be arabic

Frankfurter is german but the modern hotdog is american and debatably the idea of serving it in a bun is an american invention, which again goes back to the hamburger and the insanity of prior to america people struggle to combine meat and bread

In closing I bet you’re fun at parties. Also while america sucks at so many things we definitely make the best burgers in the world, hands down

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Totally agree with you

The Hamburger they're referring to is a Hamburg steak, which is a grilled and gravy-topped plate version of Steak Tartar, a rare beef dish that's a French version of ... a Tartar chopped beef dish. It's all versions of something else and they change each time. The American change to grilling, buns, and a handheld version isn't any less than the German or French, IMHO

Same for "Frankfurters", they're pork, lamb intestine, boiled, and only served on a plate. But American hot dogs historically are kosher beef, spiced more heavily, are typically grilled, and absolutely are served on specialized buns developed for them.

This is typical for American food inventions, a rejection of any updates or improvements.