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The only reason why we found out about 2015 shenanigans was neoliberals tucking tail after trump won so Donna Brazile had a chance to see the books.
This is a huge chance to pry the party out of neoliberal hands, because Jamie Harrison is acting like most of Biden's picks and resigning before things get difficult.
But there is zero fucking chance $1,700,000,000 was raised and spent in 107 days and there wasn't any grifting going on. The purpose of Kamala's campaign wasn't to win an election, it was to churn a bunch of money so people could take their slices.
We can't afford to do it a fourth time in a row.
Winning the election needs to be the priority of the party.
I said this in another thread - 1.7 billion in 107 days means spending $15,887,850 a day. Let's be generous and assume a crazy 12 hour work day, 7 days a week.
That's $1,323,987 an hour, every hour. 12 hours a day, for 107 days... with NOTHING to show for it.
It's been Brewster's Millions since 2016, and at this point the only thing crazier than the party trying it a fourth time is us letting the same people keep calling the shots.
They pick their candidate long before the primary, and before 10 states vote they declare a winner and say it's over. If a Republican wins, it's just not a big deal to them.
Because in four years they'll get even more money to make sure a progressive can't make it to the general
2020 was the worst, picking Biden after the 3rd primary, and that one being South Carolina...
Because we really want red states determining who the Democratic candidate is... 🙄
I'd love to see it by last election's turnout percentage.
Vermont went 64% D, let them go first.
Wyoming got 26%, so they go last.
Some state wants to go first? Tell em to work on their turnout in the general.
It seems common sense, and in a close race it trickles down to battleground states after the main voting blocks, while maintaining their voter engagement.
Plus while I don't think primaries campaigns hurt generals like the DNC keeps saying, this let's the Dem on Dem ads be ran in places that are voting blue no matter who.
Ooh... that's a FANTASTIC idea that Iowa and New Hampshire will never let happen. ;)
I think the trick is each state would need to run two primaries, but then some already do, and some run a caucus AND a primary.
The problem here would be burning through all the blue states and not getting enough delegates to become the nominee. Then you really WOULD have Red states picking the candidate.
Yeah, based on this delegate counter:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/delegate-count-by-state
By the time you burned through all the blue states, you'd have assigned 2,541 delegates with 1,976 needed to be the nominee. It's possible that someone wouldn't hit that number just based on the blue states.
Under this model, the Democratic Primary for 2028 would be this, then invert it for the Republican Primary.
District of Columbia - 90.3% - 39 delegates
Vermont - 63.2% - 33
Maryland - 62.6% - 134
Massachusetts - 61.2% - 132
Hawaii - 60.6% - 24
California - 58.5% - 587
Washington - 57.2% - 132
Delaware - 56.6% - 37
Connecticut - 56.4% - 88
New York - 55.9% - 274
Rhode Island - 55.5% - 45
Oregon - 55.3% - 89
Illinois - 54.4% - 222
Colorado - 54.2% - 104
Maine - 52.4% - 46
New Jersey - 52.0% - 175
New Mexico - 51.9% - 56
Virginia - 51.8% - 99
NE-2 - 51.3% - 65
Minnesota - 50.9% - 114
New Hampshire - 50.7% - 46
Pennsylvania - 48.7%
Wisconsin - 48.7%
Georgia - 48.5%
Michigan - 48.3%
North Carolina - 47.7%
Nevada - 47.5%
Arizona - 46.7%
ME-2 - 44.8%
Ohio - 43.9%
Florida - 43.0%
Iowa - 42.5%
Texas - 42.5%
Alaska - 41.4%
Kansas - 41.0%
South Carolina - 40.4%
Missouri - 40.1%
Indiana - 39.6%
Nebraska - 38.9%
Montana - 38.5%
Louisiana - 38.2%
Mississippi - 38.0%
Utah - 37.8%
Tennessee - 34.5%
South Dakota - 34.2%
Alabama - 34.1%
Kentucky - 33.9%
Arkansas - 33.6%
Oklahoma - 31.9%
North Dakota - 30.5%
Idaho - 30.4%
West Virginia - 28.1%
Wyoming - 25.8%
I want same day country wide just like the regular election. Primaries are an electability test and need to be treated as such
We want it so much they were moved to first! It was so clearly a corrupt move and a punishment to two states that said he sucked. Not that Iowa and New Hampshire deserved their prominence, but the whole fiasco had a very clear narrative.
Brewster had a way more compelling platform, though ("vote none of the above").
I agree with you on the money. It doesn't make any sense to me. And everyone was a volunteer too? Like you said, how do you spend that much money in such a short amount of time, and then immediately roll over and say "oh well, we lost" like they have?
It's not a freaking game of touch football. It's the future of the country and everyone that lives in it.
Goodhart's law strikes again.
They can't tune their process for 'win election', because that's only one sample every four years, and it's a binary value.
So instead they tune it for 'raise campaign funds' as a proxy measure for 'win election', and that's vastly more responsive; they can optimise the crap out of that.
This also means that a bunch of influential people are able to skim significant amounts off the top, so they're not minded to change it. They're stinking rich so they don't have to care about the actual political outcome - and the more people are suffering, the more they'll donate.
The trump win was a massive windfall for the next cycle of fundraising.
Was it after that election constituents sued the DNC for not even trying to keep promises made on the campaign trail and the DNC successfully argued they had no obligation to even try to implement campaign promises?