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DoorDash now warns you that your food might get cold if you don’t tip (www.theverge.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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DoorDash now warns you that your food might get cold if you don’t tip::The app-based delivery service is alerting customers that drivers may not take their order in a timely manner if there is no tip included upfront.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can twist the words all you like, but DoorDash is still an employer, and they still pay like shit.

[+] [email protected] -66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

DoorDash is an "employer" as in they have employees, but the drivers are independent contractors. Employees at DoorDash are support staff, coders, etc. DoorDash pay is clearly good enough to attract many independent contractors to deliver for them, and because they are contractors they have all the options.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Them being contractors is legal bullshit. Many of the apps forbid you from running other apps at the same time, they assign orders to you, it's not an open list, and if you deny too many orders most of the apps will stop assigning you orders. They're de facto employees that the companies lie about to not pay taxes and benefits

[+] [email protected] -47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Them being contractors is legal bullshit.

What makes it "legal bullshit"? They are legally independent contractors, and that's not something that we're just taking their word for. There are legal tests to determine whether or not someone is an employee or an independent contractor, and there have been lawsuits about this topic as well.

Many of the apps forbid you from running other apps at the same time

Many? I've not heard of this, can you name them? As far as I understand it's quite common for drivers to multi-app.

they assign orders to you, it’s not an open list

Orders are offered to drivers who then choose whether or not to accept them.

They’re de facto employees that the companies lie about to not pay taxes and benefits

That's your opinion. As of right now it's not backed up by anything substantial, and it's not looking likely to change. You don't need to accuse companies of serious fraud just because you don't like them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I'm aware they are legally "contractors". It's bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There HAVE been lawsuits, yes! And DoorDash lost the class action that alleged they misclassified its workers as independent contractors when they should be classed as employees. They paid 100mil for that, and that's just one case.

But don't just take my word for it. Here's Californias labor laws on the test for determining employee vs contractor;

Under the ABC test, a worker is considered an employee and not an independent contractor, unless the hiring entity satisfies all three of the following conditions:

The worker is free from the control and direction of the hiring entity in connection with the performance of the work, both under the contract for the performance of the work and in fact;

The worker performs work that is outside the usual course of the hiring entity’s business; and

The worker is customarily engaged in an independently established trade, occupation, or business of the same nature as that involved in the work performed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it's simply the quickest way to add an additional income for desperate people needing a second job. No interviews, no resume needed, you don't even need a car.

I quit after I realized it was costing more in gas and car maintenance than I was making. Imagine driving 20 miles for $3. With pick up and drop off, that's at least half an hour. At that rate, you're making $6/hour. It absolutely 100% depends on customer tips to actually pay it's dashers