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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Bluesky Post (this was also posted on twitter)

I was hoping to find a statement from the aggressor, but it seems to be too early.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you have Nazis in the place they just wait until they see someone expressing opinions that's bordering on their side of the political fence and they initiate contact to try and comfort them in their thoughts.

How to radicalize a normie: https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So, any platform that offers unmoderated DMs should be banned? Or how exactly do you want to solve extremists reaching out in private?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who said anything about DMs? Make extremists feel unwelcome (contrary to what's going on on Steam's forums) and they'll leave, you don't need to scan DMs, you just need to delete extremist content instead of leaving it up like is happening now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Wait, so your point is that we don't need to moderate DMs (and by proxy other spaces that users don't see), just make them feel unwelcome in the public ones.

And earlier in the thread, when I ask where the extremist content is, I and Schadrach agreed it is mostly places people don't see. Which you didn't object to.

So isn't it job well done, Steam is as is should be? Or what is the issue here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The implication is that someone is going to come off as a likely mark and for example get invited into a private user group with people "joking" with things like the Happy Merchant or being ridiculously over the top in a way that's hard to take seriously to ease people in to taking white supremacist ideas seriously.

Ever seen the South Park episode about the Passion of the Christ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_the_Jew)? The idea is basically that that is constantly happening online anywhere it's not sufficiently prevented.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ok, cool. How should Steam prevent it?

Edit: Or more relevantly, how is having unmoderated usually unseen public spaces worse for this than having unmoderated private spaces? Is the issue only that steam does not hide what is happening unlike other websites?