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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The other option: overthrow the violent regime with magic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know what to tell you - people always think there must be a "good" option, and if the current one is bad then any other option must therefore be good.

This could also be a radical regime like the Taliban that could actually be worse for most people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What about this: the status quo under Assad with houndred of thousands tortured and murdered is bad enough to try to change it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Yeah it was a very good idea to give weapons to ISIS. Thanks american realpolitik /s

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well... Yeah. But do the rebels care about that? Or do they just feel that Asad was just torturing and murdering the wrong people? And do they feel that Assad was just not following the koran closely enough by allowing women to be educated?

Rebellion against oppression often leads to a different type of oppression, and given the groups these rebels have been associated with in the past it's concerning at least.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You just write down what pops up in you mind.

Where are your sources for those claims?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

What claims? You just say things that pop in your mind too. Where are your sources?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is untrue considering their track record after the rebranding from Al-Nusra to HTS. They're not spawning out of thin air.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is untrue? My concern? How can my concern be "untrue?"

The skills needed to be a revolutionary are very different from the skills needed to govern. Remember when the taliban was "kinder and softer" for a few months?

I'll be happy if my concern is misplaced. But time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How can my concern be "untrue?"

The idea that they "could be" ignores the fact that they've been actively governing their territories since (and before, I guess) 2017, and they haven't started a Taliban-style brutal regime there. I mean I guess it's not impossible for them to suddenly change their style of governing, but what I'm trying to say that they have a track record we can use to try and predict their future behavior.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So maybe next time have a conversation rather than just telling somebody "that's untrue"? No need to be weirdly adversarial...

That said - you raise some good points. I'm not ignoring anything though. You're acting like my "concern" is saying "things will go bad" when it's not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

So maybe next time have a conversation rather than just telling somebody "that's untrue"? No need to be weirdly adversarial...

That... is fair enough.

I'm not ignoring anything though. You're acting like my "concern" is saying "things will go bad" when it's not.

Wasn't my intention to be adversarial but that is also fair enough.