I would like to introduce you lovely OpenSource Lovers to a GIT-Alternative called FOSSIL that I also stumbled upon because of this Blog. It's basically opensource Github-in-a-box which means it's an SCM with:
- Bug-tracker
- Ticketting-system
- Forum
- Wiki-system
- even a Chat-functionality
- Has built-in GUI
- Also has a Web-Server
- Self-Hostable like Gitea/Forgejo
& the best part it's all in ONE STANDALONE FILE!!! which is extremely lightweight which you can copy to your $PATH & works even in crappy internet. how cool is that!!
However this tool supports a completely different style of development in FOSS called the "Cathedral-Style" whereas GIT suports a "Bazaar-Style" The person behind Fossil is the creator of SQLite, Dr.Richard Hipp & they even made other projects to support Fossil like a PIC-Like language called PikChr Well just in case; here's a list of difference between Git vs Fossil & guess what!! they even have a hosting service called CHISEL
Listen; Just check it out & use it for fun in your spare time even with the flaws it has (& Try out Darcs & Pijul as well)
The binary executable for Fossil is a single file (repos are also single files, sqlite databases). That one executable does all the VCS functions but it also has a built-in web server that will host repos as a little customizable website. That's how you access the wiki, chat, forums, and ticketing system. You can also configure the repo, view timelines, view code, and all that stuff.
One can set up a proxy and publicly self-host the repo over the internet. That's what the official fossil site is, a hosted repo of it's own source code. I didn't feel like setting up a local web host, an ngnx reverse proxy, figuring out vpn for remote access, etc etc. So i just use synching and only run locally, because it's easier for me.
That's another nice thing about fossil, it's quite flexible and can grow with the needs of the project.
Opinions vary -- you're saying the single-file thing is good, but to me that's quite a downside honestly. For backup purposes, if nothing else, I would rather my software not need to copy the entire file every time a tiny change to it happens. And all those other server based features, imo, are bloat that I wouldn't use.
But you use Github
Look, no one is going to use this crap. Coming back a week later to try and have some weird gotcha moment will never change that
Looks like a lot of people are using it go to Chisel & see it for yourself & the whole point behind it is to use a different style of FOSS development. Same applies to Darcs & Pijul
You should know better by now that this how Libre-Software works, you walk off the beaten path
I don't know what you're basing this "you should know better" on but I can safely say that anyone who is intimately familiar with any craft knows that when you choose an alternative ecosystem to live in from everyone else, there are tradeoffs and that you're swimming upstream.
You may not care that others coming onto a project are frustrated or confused and have to learn something new that may not even provide any discernible value to them, but those individuals care. That's clearly a concern for almost all project leaders. I mean, that is the only reason people used SVN for like 5-10 years after everyone knew it sucked compared to other things--
They really dreaded teaching dozens of devs a new thing, in addition to the work required to move things over. Hell, we switched from bit bucket to GitHub in my shop, the closest you can get to a drop in replacement job and that was painful because we had hundreds of repos to move.
Ps. If you had a listing of Git repos on a single page, it would need pagination to avoid crashing you browser/system. It would likely be millions of repos so I am not sure how that list you linked to is supposed to prove anything.
With that mentality of yours, OpenSource wouldn't be a thing
and yet it is, despite probably 99.99% of it is managed with git. Pretty funny that you're accusing me of stifling collaboration for simply stating that easy onboarding is important, and using some oddball system no one has heard of it doesn't make onboarding easy.
Again this applies to FOSS as a whole & nothing comes close to Oddball-ing as FOSS Back then it was SVN, now it's Git, what makes you think Fossil or Pijul won't replace Git ? Trends change & people usually take notice of lesser known things Well there's another term called "Niche"
It's easier to just stay on windows & BTW windows is working on their own proprietary VCS so yeah good luck with everything & all
Dude what are you on?
Fossil is 18 years old and I've heard of it once now despite being a software dev that whole run lol
A bizarre statement. I've only worked in two shops now where windows is used by devs. The reasoning practically every shop I've worked in uses mac: windows is a pain to develop on, and the IT department is afraid of supporting linux.
You HAVE to be trolling at this point.