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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

As someone who has had to confront homeless people with questionable mental health and/or sobriety; it's fucking hard. You want a safe space for them but then quickly that space becomes unsafe for everyone around. But also... it isn't hard just fucking talk to them. I have many times Don't stop being smart but stop being afraid. Fear of the other breeds so much hate and misery

Oh if it isn't obvious I support benches in public spaces and heavily condemn anti-houseless architecture/city planning

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Based on the context, I'm assuming you meant condemn, not condone...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Doublethink is so damn prevalent and cognitive dissonance is heavily encouraged.

It's just impossible to tell anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely, thank you for the catch!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have the solution and it's not very hard. Have social workers maintain these areas. It's really not that expensive, employs people, builds important social vibe and allows you to have your benches.

It's a solved problem.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Social workers in the area and neighbourhood police would defintly help and do more good than anti-homeless desasters. But I don't think it solves the drug , alcohol and mental-health neglect problem. There has to be more societal work done for that, you won't solve that in situ.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

neighbourhood police

At this point (in the US), I would never trust the police to do this correctly. We'd need an entirely new type of public servant. Which I'm all for. Then maybe we can slowly phase police out until they only exist for extreme cases.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

neighbourhood police

The day when USSA reinvents USR Militsiya is near.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bruh, these people will sleep anywhere. The floor of a place with a roof, walls and heating is a fucking dream, even if the places doesn't have benches. This is just borderline hostility towards regular people using public transit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

You joke, but they literally put spikes on shit so people can't sit/lay down on them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm imagining nothing but monkey bars over a bottomless pit between the subway entrance and the yellow strip by the train doors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Only the strongest can exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey so you know, "condone" is to allow or accept a practice otherwise considered bad or unacceptable which I think is not what you meant here. It sounds like you want to say something like "condemn anti-houseless architecture/city planning" unless I've misinterpreted your meaning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for your gentle correction, you got my meaning correct

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In months of being homeless and staying at a shelter I really got into it 3 times. Was almost hit by drivers 30+ times. I can't even figure out how to be legitimately angry at homeless people when, for example, there are cars on the road. Being hit and pushed into the road by a dumb bitch on her phone is 100x worse than a screaming match.

I just don't care about "soft" people who have it tough because they need to deal with homeless people occasionally.

Examples: Using crosswalk by bus station when a young woman drives nearly into me, looks up from her phone, no indication of humanity - just staring blankly.

I flipped off / called cops stupid motherfuckers for stopping in the crosswalk forcing me into the main road (I've been nearly hit multiple times walking behind a car in the blind spot.)

I've kicked cars that have cut me off. I'll be using a crosswalk and people who drive seem to be too stupid to make a left and look for people walking. Luckily I never spun myself.

I've dented multiple hoods by slamming my fist into cars / trucks as they fly up the inside and skid into the crosswalk.

I've knocked people's mirrors, although sadly it's hard to break them as they just fold, so you have to really slam them.

This is just traffic. One of the worst things when you're homeless, but it's not the only thing.

It's just so much worse dealing with "normal" people. The system turns us into fucking heartless monsters. A homeless person is much less of a negative force on the world. It's you, it's me who are trash. We're hurting them way more.

Edit: one time I was out early and stepped into the street with a thud. A man across the street gets pissed for stepping on his shoe. Screaming, possibility of a fight... that's what I got from homeless / drug addicts. Much less depressing, degrading, etc. than when you're forced to interact with the homeful.