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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The kind of cop you are talking about is a coward. They are far less likely to harass protesters when they are open carrying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Cops fearing for their lives is the #1 reason they pull a gun and shoot

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's one thing for them to be afraid you might be armed, and quite another to know you are armed and surrounded by allies who are also armed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Works for gangs all the time yeah?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes actually. It's not immunity from cops, but it protects from general harassment. If the cops want you bad enough then they will get you regardless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Well yes, and they fear for their lives so goddamn much of the time because they're poorly trained cowards who are used to being the high school bully and the wife beater and never having their authority threatened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A very american perspective, tbh. From soneone in a country where you're not allowed to carry a gun around as a random idiot, it's so wild to read.

Then again, I also understand that this external perspective has little meaning. You can't magically wish the laws + all those guns away, and like in any arms race you can't be entirely unarmed until you can enact a more permanent de-armament solution later.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's actually a lot less common for regular citizens to open carry in the US than some might think from US News. It's unusual in a protest, and almost always a far right thing. It has been used effectively by the left, but not at scale in the last 50 years.

The most effective protest movements usually have two approaches going on at the same time, one that threatens violence, and one that is strictly non violent. Non violent movements tend to be ignored until negotiations with them are seen as more favorable than dealing with an armed movement.