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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I seem to recall that was the figure like 15 years ago. Has it not improved in all this time?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

It varies greatly depending on where you live. In rural, conservative areas women tend to make a lot less. On the other hand, some northeast and west coast cities have higher average salaries for women than men.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think this may be because women are outpacing men in education in some areas, so it’s not based on gender necessarily but qualifications.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

I believe certain job fields come much closer to being 1:1 as well, though I've only heard that anecdotally

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Reverse Sexism >:O

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago

Not sure where it's higher outside of the field of sex work.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That stat wasn't even real when it was published.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The data from that study didn’t even compare similar fields.

It compared a Walmart worker to a doctor lol.

It was a wild study.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

In an ideal world it would be nice to be able to do that, but in our it's just misleading.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

This. It's a wilfully deceptive statistical misinterpretation implying that a woman working alongside a man in the same job is magically making 20-something percent less. If businesses could get away with saving 20-30% on their biggest ongoing expense (payroll) for employees in one half of the population, they would only ever hire people from that half.

When controlled for field, role, seniority, region, etc., the disparity is within a margin of error.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

It looks like the figure is similar in the US: plateaued at 83% a few years ago, currently at 82.

Incidentally, I’m not used to seeing “West-“ specified and was curious enough to read up. Didn’t realize there were still major social differences in the East. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are very strong lingering effects which mean women, on average, are paid less.

It's especially hard on women in various countries where they're now expected to both have a successful career and be the primary child caregiver. Which is as ridiculous as it sounds.

However, one example of advocacy from a cafe in my city of Melbourne Australia a number of years ago really rubbed me the wrong way: when a cafe decided to charge like 25% more to men (inverse of 80%). I was a close to minimum wage worker at the time (in Australia, before the cost of living skyrocket, so I wasn't starving), and it annoyed me because if I went in, I would be asked to pay more because I was a man, never mind the fact I would likely be earning far less than many women going in there.

The wage gap is 100% real, and things should definitely be done to make all genders pay more equitable. But hell, the class divide is orders of magnitude worse, and we ought not forget it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like it’s similar to here. I would have thought we narrowed the gap by now but apparently not. The child caregiver trends are definitely behind along with a host of other gender norms.

Lol that pricing scheme sounds great, easily a sketch comedy premise from Portlandia, BackBerner, SNL, etc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, it was "optional" (but let's be real, you wouldn't want to be that guy). And done temporarily for publicity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ah I see, like grocers requiring that employees solicit donations at every checkout to reduce global food insecurity (and the grocer’s tax burden), it’s only technically optional.