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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

I have to feel that "a woman needs to feel like a woman" wouldn't get a similar reaction.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It sounds like something terfs would say to explain why being a tradwife is good and desirable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why is that the direction you're taking this? Have you not once noticed how women have a whole set of unspoken rules and shit that you gotta do to be part of their show?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

That sort of could be interpreted as "a woman needs to know her place".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not so sure. If I went around standing at doors waiting for them to be opened for me, I think it might get laughed at.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

Lots of women do this, mostly very young ones with fresh naive boyfriends but its definitely not unheard of for a woman to act that way. Not that that excuses the men who behave like this also.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I once got told off by a woman in The Netherlands (to were I had immigrated from my native Portugal) for holding the door open for her and had to explain that it wasn't for her, it was because it made me feel good to be helpful and I did it for both men and women (if you've already gone to the trouble of openning the door, might as well keep it open for somebody who is just behind you).

I just found it funny how a cultural habit from somewhere else that wasn't even gender specific got interpreted as macho posturing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Traditionally, societal opionions of how a woman should be involved her making herself appealing to men before married and submissive to her husband afterwards.

I would even say that "a man needs to feel like a man" and "a woman needs to feel like a woman" are two sides of the same original coin - it's just that in modern days the latter is frowned upon much more (though, sadly, a lot of people still go around with an interiorized version of it) than the former.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

That sounds very TERF IMO, they're also hated

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, and they really need extreme effort to cater to. Maybe it just doesn't come so naturally for me in the spectrum, but it feels like a whole awful game balancing act that exists to let the other person think they're in charge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, whenever anybody talks like this, I just assume they're talking about traditional gender roles. So, "a woman needs to feel like a woman" gives me the ick, too.