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Depending on how the next four years go I'm on the fence between Bush Jr. and Trump but I'd like to hear from you

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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

While W. sucked in many ways, there is no way he is the worst. Off the top of my head I can easily think of four better contenders: Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan (both guilty of pro-slavery fuckery before the Civil War), Andrew Johnson (fought to let the Confederates off the hook after the war and opposed the 14th amendment), and Donald Trump (first president to be impeached twice, first to be convicted of a felony, and may be remembered by future historians as the spark that ignites the next Civil War).

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

donvict ain't done yet, either. i think the damage and legacy he leaves behind, leaking out that giant diaper, will be the worst of the bunch.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Question from another European about that, he's convicted but never got a sentence? Or did he and why in that case isn't he serving?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

Sentencing was delayed until after Nov. 5th, and now it's been permanently delayed. I'm sure the conviction will be overturned at some point while he's in office

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Non burgers here: I believe the sentencing for the conviction was delayed till after the election. And since that they have announced it has been delayed indefinitely.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Btw. question from Germany regarding Trumps Felony: I read that people convicted of a felony may not vote yet I also read that Trump cast his in Florida. Hoe does it actually work?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

America doesn't have laws and isn't a functioning society.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

He was convicted in New York so Florida doesn't care.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

It is complicated because the rules are different in each state. Also, Trump was convicted in New York state but he resides and votes in Florida.

For out-of-state convictions, Florida defers to the other state's rules. New York would allow Trump to vote if he resided there because he is not currently in prison, so Trump can vote in Florida legally.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-felony-conviction-can-he-vote-b95e7b4c9158d999e8bc89b00fbda911

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

He's rich and white so laws don't apply to him.