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Torture, rape, abuse: New Palestinian testimonies reveal horrors of Israel's prisons (www.newarab.com)

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There are over 100 sick prisoners here with me, all of them from Gaza. Some have chronic diseases, some have been injured under torture, and all of them scream from the pain, as there is no treatment.

One day after your visit, a group of soldiers came with dogs, they came to where we were. They selected prisoners at random from every age group … children, young men, old men. They made them lie on the ground, face down, their hands tied behind their heads.

Then they set the dogs on them again, and then one of the soldiers tried to get one of the dogs to rape one of the prisoners! They teach their dogs to have sex with prisoners! Can you imagine?

They made the dogs attack them, tearing at the skin and flesh of the prisoners […], then they stood them up and put them in a corner where there was a big "iron window". They put [the prisoners'] hands on the window, then began beating them on their backs, their buttocks, and their legs from behind.

They attacked another prisoner called "J.M." in the same way - they beat him and abused him, and brought in dogs to rape him. They stripped him naked and put the dogs on top of him, they were ripping at his flesh, then a soldier came carrying an "electrical baton", which emitted high-voltage electric shocks, and they started beating the prisoner on his genitals.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Hate to break it to you but it’s Israel who pays for disinformation campaigns to dehumanize Palestinians and erased their history and connections to the land.

You're a fool if you think that propaganda ans disinformation only exist on one side of this conflict, or any conflict for that matter.

Regardless, I'm instantly suspicious of any person online whose initial response in a comment is an obviously copy-pasted wall of cherry-picked information which paints one side as the forever victim and the other as a infinite aggressor. And then your next response is to quote that same shit to me again? That only makes you look less like a person discussing the matter in good faith. Is that wrong?

First documented in the late Bronze Age, about 3200 years ago, the name Palestine, is the conventional name used between 450 BC and 1948 AD to describe a geographic region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River and various adjoining lands.

If we're going to talk about the modern English name "Palestine", maybe we should reflect on the fact that it comes from Hebrew:

Pəlištī (פְּלִשְׁתִּי; plural Pəlištīm, פְּלִשְׁתִּים), meaning 'people of Pəlešeṯ' (פְּלֶשֶׁת)

Peleset was indeed more or less the region that we think of today as "The Gaza Strip", and was most certainly not a contiguous or well-defined region spanning "the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River". Regardless of what your propaganda says, there is no evidence at any point in history of a single "Palestinian" nation "from the river to the sea". That's a fabrication, in my opinion. But maybe you have a legitimate historical source?

Further, the Philistines (the original tribal people from Peleset) had very little in common with today's Palestinians--whose culture is derived almost entirely from an Arab Muslim tradition forced upon them during the genocidal conquest of the Islamic Rashidun Caliphate ~650AD.

Today's nations of Israel and Palestine are mere creations of the British and the League of Nations after the fall of the Ottoman Empire post-World War I. Throughout recorded history the Levant has been under the control of various empires and factions (the Ottomans, the Islamic Caliphate, The Byzantines, the Romans, the Persians, the Greeks, the Egyptians, and so on). Today's Israelis and Palestinians both have legitimate historical claims over land in the region dating back hundreds, if not thousands, of years (much like Native Americans have a legitimate historical claim of America's lands dating back thousands of years or more), but that means very little in the context of modern geopolitics and the people who lived in the Levant in the Brozne Age has very little resemblance or cultural similarity to those who live there now, obviously.

Maybe that's a tough pill for people here to swallow, but I don't care about that because it's simply the truth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Regardless, I'm instantly suspicious of any person online whose initial response in a comment is an obviously copy-pasted wall of cherry-picked information which paints one side as the forever victim and the other as a infinite aggressor.

One side is the Colonizer one is the Colonized. Of course there is anti-colonialist violence, that's most of what People have heard about. Except without the context of the history of ethnic cleansing and Apartheid.

But maybe you have a legitimate historical source?

Yes, the first book referenced in my last section by Nur Masalha. The 8th chapter in particular. The first chapter starts with the history of the Philistines and the subsequent history of the people and region. You may find it interesting

Today's Israelis and Palestinians both have legitimate historical claims over land in the region dating back hundreds, if not thousands, of years

Nothing about what I've posted has claimed that Israelis Don't have a right to exist. My point is that they don't have a right to ethnically cleanse the native population and that the solution is a Bi-National One State Solution with equal rights for all.