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Give and Take. It doesn't matter. You aren't selling shit if you aren't offering what the people want. They wanted a rock to throw in a glass house and Trump promised to be that rock, not the Democrats. Yet, they will never learn this lesson.
lets teach through parable.
A drifter has been walking through a desert for five days without water. if he doesn't get water in the next hour he will die. he happens upon a small oasis.
the drifter rushes to find water and all he sees is:
he looks at his options and is debating which would be better. he starts to move towards the puddle to drink from it when suddenly the camel begins to relieve itself.
he stops to consider drinking the urine.
you are the drifter. the shit bucket is trump. the puddle is kamala. the piss is stein. the corpse is the abstained voter.
which would you have chosen?
The choice is obvious, we eat the sand in hopes it will quench our thirst. Thats basically what we did.
welcome to corpse town!
population, 20 million.
A murky pond of still water might not be a good choice no matter how thirsty you are. The bacteria in it could kill you. If you're thirsty and lost at sea, I hope you won't drink the salt water. That's the issue with the insistance that people should vote for Harris "to stop trump". It's short sighted and does nothing to address the long-term problem of, election after election, being presented two shitty options and told it's critical that you eat shit instead of voting for the person that will actually fight for your values. Sorry the Democrats keep refusing to learn this lesson, but they are just as much to blame for Trump's victory as the people who voted for him.
Out of your options above, the camel might actually be the safest option. You'll at least get some hydration out of it if you don't cook it to shit.
If you're an hour away from dying from thirst, then a murky pond of water filled with bacteria, is better than a bucket of shit or camel piss.
bacteria may kill you in days. But you will die of thirst in one hour.
You completely missed the entire point of the exercise. If I make it any dumber, I'll have to write it in crayon.
You were so close though. Go enjoy your cup of sand.
That's exactly the reason that people didn't vote.
There's no civilization in sight.
Your options are
drink the pond water and get dysentery. Struggle to find help while you are slowed down by your illness and shit yourself to death.
drink the bucket of shit. Same problem just much quicker
drink the camel piss. ~~It's sterile,~~ (edit: I stand corrected) and provides some hydration
just fucking give up because all these choices are dire and no matter what you're probably going to die because there is no sign of civilization or rescue, or another clean source of water, or things getting remotely better for you.
And you're yelling at people for not happily slurping up the pond water and subjecting themselves to dysentery. Some people are going to have the fortitude to do whatever it takes for survival. And some people in that situation just give up.
People didn't vote because of apathy, and no hope that things will get better in the future. Yes Harris is better than Trump. But she's still a step in the wrong direction. Just because it wasn't a running long jump towards doom doesn't mean it's not making progress in the same direction. You want people to vote for you? Inspire your fucking voter base. Give them something to rally behind. Make them excited. Give them hope. Give them a reason to stand in line for hours to vote after working an 8 hour day. Have strong policies that inspire confidence in your capabilities. Don't make a large part of your campaign 'at least I'm better than the other person'. That's your selling point? Not how good you are. Just how less bad you are.
Piss is not sterile.
Analogy is not good, either. But kudos to anyone still trying to make it work.
Piss is also chock full of concentrated salts and metabolic waste that hasten dehydration. Drinking piss is definitely not an option.
Now you can take the piss and use evaporative distillation to extract the water from the mess, but that takes time and skill and know-how. It's not as easy as, ya know, drinking piss.
Lol, yeah, you're right. My bad for assuming we would have to make the decision with information that a person would likely have in that scenario, like one has to do in real life... I think you're still wrong, both in the example you attempted and the point you're trying to make.
Democrats will need to work on offering people something more than murky water that might kill you if they want to get people to come out and vote for them. And why would I risk a deadly bacterial infection when I have piss available that I am reasonably certain is sterile? I'm honestly not sure why you think that's not a good course of action, though I'll admit I'm not a scientist and would be interested to hear a scientist/doctor's take on this survival scenario.
Piss is not sterile.
You'll jump through any hoop to say the voters should have drank more piss instead of saying the piss should have cleaned itself up
I don't just mean Gaza, I mean democratic candidates need to find a way to excite rural voters by giving them an actual path to financial stability
Your parable doesn't even make sense, the election wasn't lost by educated people refusing to drink piss, it was won by republicans by getting uneducated voters to happily eat shit thinking it'll give them super powers. (I mean educated on the issues like "what is a tarrif")
Don't get pissed dude.
you're not supposed to drink the camel piss. Hell, you weren't even supposed to drink the bucket of shit!
You should have drank the pond scum. Would have at least bought you a few days until you get some help for dysentery.
But you decided to eat the sand. You poor dumb bastard, now you're drier than turkey jerky.
Sorry I didn't really read your story
You should ask the pond to be less scummier
Also I'm not American, and if I was you don't know who I would have voted for
Cringe. There's no other word for it. This makes me cringe. It's cringe worthy.
Your own metaphor is a hopeless quagmire.
You DON'T drink the scum. You purify it by pulling only the essential water from the filth, leaving the filth behind.
So even in this mess of a parable, of your own concoction, you're getting it wrong. The key was for the Harris admin aka the puddle, to understand that humans cannot survive on toxic water. The only way to survive is to remove the pathogens.