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Europe won’t be able to finance Ukraine’s defenses against Russia’s invasion on its own if the US withdraws support under Donald Trump’s next presidency, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said Friday.

Orban said recent events vindicated the conclusions from his controversial July diplomatic mission to Kyiv, Moscow and Beijing and showed Ukraine was losing the war.

“The Americans are going to get out of this war,” Orban, who is hosting a European Union summit in Budapest on Friday, said on public radio. “Europe can’t finance this war on its own.”

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah the best way to discourage a revanchist is to give him what he wants. Succeeding in Ukraine will definitely convince Putin not to attack the baltics, poland, or finland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

You don't understand anything about military reality, let alone actual motivations.

The CIA itself reports and has been reporting for years that Putin has no expansionist ambitions politically and no expansionist capabilities militarily.

There's a reason why the Russian military has not tried to take Kiev and it's because defending supply lines across the wide open plains of Ukraine is incredibly difficult and costly.

Russia is not capable of taking all of Eastern Europe and holidng and it has no plans or intentions to do so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

You don’t understand what Russia wants; you understand what Western propaganda tells you it wants.


INB4 NATO is a defensive alliance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If NATO is really as effective as it's claimed to be, then the baltics, Poland, and Finland have nothing to worry about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

The enemy is both strong and weak. Russia is a paper tiger that will roll over all of Europe.