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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Don't like tipping? Protest the policies by not going to restaurants, dont shove it on the workers who are stuck in the system.

The owner is 100% happy you came to pay him and not the waiter he didnt wanna pay anyway.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How does this form of protest translate into a change of the tipping system?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah this protest only works if there are also another set of restaurants that specifically tell you not to tip that you can give business to. I have been to some but they are very rare where I live.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or just don't go to restaurants. There are other ways of getting food.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thats one way of looking at it... but if everyone would stop tipping, they would be forced to pay them a living wage or go out of business when all the staff quit. Its actually in the consumers power to effect that change, but only on a mass scale. Unfortunately its an awkward social coercion tactic at play now, which just continues to perpetuate the problem pitting us against each other just as capitalism intends to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So we don't need OSHA? We can just let construction workers quit if the contractors make them do dangerous stuff?

Youre a bit oblivious to your privilege. People can't just quit or yknow, they starve.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

If tips are bad, the worker quits. If sales are bad, the worker is fired and might collect unemployment benefits.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, in these debates more often than not I find that the waiters don't want tipping culture changed either. A lot (not all, I understand) of waiters make bank on tips and then don't accurately report them as income so it's not even taxed correctly. They don't want that to change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't give a shit what the waiter wants honestly, I shouldn't have to pay the owner and the worker separately

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't disagree with you.