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[–] [email protected] 238 points 5 days ago (17 children)

If I find out you voted for Trump in 2016, I will judge you but I could forgive you.

If I find out you voted for Trump in 2020, I will judge you and will have a hard time forgiving you.

If I find out you voted for Trump in 2024, you're dead to me. Friend, family, doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 days ago (9 children)

I wish I could say the same but I can't bring myself to cut my dad out of my life. Yesterday ended our 2 year streak of talking every day.

He learned years ago not to bring up politics with me because he knows I will destroy all of his arguments and bring receipts. He's let a comment or two slip at a family gathering but he knows my phone's coming out of I'm within earshot... No, dad, he was definitely friends with Epstein - here's a quote saying so from the 90s.

I've thought a lot about bringing it up or at the very least what my response would be if he does. I want to tell him that he has 20 years left at best but I have to live in the world he voted for a lot longer. I want to tell him that I think my sister would be right to never speak to him again. I want to tell him that she may be young, but in 15 years my niece is going to rightfully resent him for what he supported.

But what I think I'm going to actually tell him is that he fucked up so bad that I HAVE to assume he truly does not understand the implications of this if I ever want to be able to look him in the eye again.

And every single time Trump does something shitty as president, I will be texting him what it was and why it's bad whether he likes it or not.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My father and I became estranged about a decade before he passed, for reasons other than but similar to politics. Our world views just did not align and in ways that I could not ultimately forgive. We did not really ever reconcile before his passing and I don't regret it to this day. I don't believe in unconditional love and he did not earn mine, imho. I am estranged with most of my extended family for similar reasons. I'm not really willing to compromise certain morals.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This might sound bad but I wish I had a similar level of resolve. I tolerate far too much insanity from people in my family.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm cutting them out completely. I can't stand people who sit back and do nothing or support fascism.

This will be the first year in almost 20 years that I simply don't visit the family for christmas, with the exception of the pandemic.

From now on, if you're a trump supporter or you "sat this one out", I'm not wasting any effort on you, continue sitting this one out.

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