this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
144 points (98.6% liked)

politics

19097 readers
3938 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a lot easier to reshape a political party than to dump them and start afresh.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can't reshape a party that refuses to change. How many decades have we had the same complaints about them?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A whole bunch of Sanders supporters got themselves elected to the DNC and changed the rules to make contested primaries easier. The Democratic party isn't some static thing that we have no control over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope you're right, but in practical results it doesn't seem like much has changed. Personally I'll be pushing for 3rd parties now until we get closer to the next election.

I won't be the same type of obstinate person that sticks with a party with 0% chance as opposed to a worse party with a 40% chance, but I'd much rather they go the way of the dinosaur.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In practice, those rules made it easier to have centrist primary challenges to Democrats in congress, rather than left-wing ones.

The big thing we need to change is the media environment. Much of the US is a news desert, so people are depending on things like YouTube shorts and Xitter for their news.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly, for the most part, I think the videos and talking heads are a symptom of an even bigger issue. The inability to read long form text, comprehend it, and reflect on the text in a logical manner. They want these videos breaking it down for them, and they want those talking heads telling them what to believe. Why? Because reading is "hard".

On the flip side, they LOVE to read all up on their fave bands, their fave celebrity, fave movie, fave game, or any drama on their little social app. So, they can read of course. Only when it is over something that doesn't really matter in the long run, or drivel meant to ruin their perception.

Same people who will sit there and read the entire lore of Dark Souls/Elden Right, but can't even read a website hosted by one of the running candidates that explicitly goes into details of what their platform is.

Hmm..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

That was always the Rolling Stone business model — talk about the bands, and throw in a side of serious political news.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Oh how wonderful, and how many actual primaries has the DNC had since the rule was changed? Y'know, so that change could actually be useful?