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Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory (www.politico.eu)

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Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

lol, says the person ignoring the literal mountains of evidence saying an abortion ballot measure will pass literally in any state. it literally passed in kansas. Now if you want such a bill elect congress critters that will pass it. harris is immaterial until that happens. for some reason I doubt trump would veto such a bill; not because he said it but because he doesn't generally care about shit unless it impacts him personally. But given congress has avoided passing such a bill in the past color me doubtful it will now. what else will they run on if not abortion and not trump? looks at harris' policies

frankly if abortion is your defining reason to vote for harris well shrug that makes you a single issue voter and I thought they were bad? but maybe I'm fairly indifferent since my state already has enshrined abortions as law and I can't solve all the worlds issues. especially the ones that are easily resolved at the ballot box.

so again, trump is an abomination, and learn to focus your efforts. harris isn't some magic solution to americas problems. I'll be over here getting ranked choice in my state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, let me just elect representatives in a different state, brb.

If it was so simple, explain why it has taken so many state governments so long to do something about it? It's almost like it's way more complicated than you make it out to be. My state has abortion on the ballot this time around - I don't expect it to pass. In addition, the state wants to make my harder for citizens to get further measures on the ballot. It's like lots of us are working against the awful bodies of government. Imagine that. Land of the free, mmmmhm.

Also lmfao, yes, mmhm, absolutely, I'm a single-issue voter. Honey, I'm gay as fuck, the day a baby pops out of my partners asshole because I knocked them up, the day I'm the fuck outta here. It's almost like people with a broad worldview can have multiple issues they care about or something, and - stay with me here - they don't need to be a member of an affected class to want to help them improve their lives and well-being. Crazy, right?

The loudest people don't have a damn clue what the hell they are arguing about, they just want to hear themselves speaking louder than others. "I got mine, suckers, ez pz" energy is strong with this one. It's okay though, they are getting ranked-choice... aaaaaaaaany day now... (it's okay, it's ez pz)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

I have sympathy for your plight, but your efforts are better spent getting people in your state to pass the law than relying on Democrats nationally to do the right thing.

Harris' is not the solution (tm) to your problem. The president is not responsible for passing legislation. Stop relying on blue states and fix yours. I know it's hard.

Look how hard you are fighting against someone who generally is just trying to get the US to stop arming a genocide? Can you imagine how annoyingly stupid this feels to be discussing? Murder bad mmmmkay? Everyone else: 'its fine bigger issues to fry trump!' i suspect you can.

Now put it in perspective: if you cant get your state to support abortion what makes you think we'll get the nation to? In order to get it passed nationally you need to get the support locally.

You clearly have trauma and need help, sadly putting your hopes in kamala isnt going to solve your issues. I assure you if they havent been fixed by biden's admin they wont be fixed by her being elected. Here are the conditions you'll need to see movement:

house will need to switch hands
senate will need to remain blue.
democrats will have to end the fillibuster OR get supermajority in the senate.

Guess how all of those happen? By focusing your efforts not on kamala but on your local elections.

Learn to focus your energy stop fighting me and get off your ass locally. My lesser evil is fucking voting 3rd party because kamala is a pos candidate relative to my state. she's 100% going to win here. So why are you wasting my and your time/energy you clearly gave more important shit to do.