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More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please, tell me more about Germany in the 1930s and how, after they murdered the trans folks, and the gays, and then the socialist (yeah, they were pretty high up on the list), the genocide just could not have gotten worse.

Palestine is already being ethnically cleansed and Israel is bombing 3 of its neighbors and invading one. All of this happens with the permission and necessary support of the Biden-Harris administration and it is maximalist.

Under the Nazis in WWII, the "final solution" was actually fairly ad hoc. It was not the original plan, of which there were several that they scrambled around for, some of which were simply made unfeasible, like The Madagascar Plan. There were also plans to create reservations, modeled after the US system. Oppressing their primary scapegoat was the consistent plan, but it's exact form was easily negotiable among them, it was not seen as a core necessity to run an extermination campaign or complete expulsion. Presumably you, someone being very condescending to me about history because I tell you not to support genocide, is aware of this.

Israel is actually different in thus regard. It's existence has always been premised on the displacement and ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population. Its founders spoke and wrote openly of this and participated in pogroms of Palestinians. The Zionist entity is not suddenly doing genocide, it has been for decades, it has just dialed it up to a maximalist degree given its capabilities and interest in self-preservation. But do not forget that it has never stopped expanding and engaging in settler-colonialism, never stopped engaging in pogroms, never stopped dividing The West Bank into concentration camps, districts smaller than those in Apartheid South Africa, never stopped considering Palestinians subhuman.

Be on the right side of history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you writing this comment while outside actively protesting the genocide? Cause if not, then you're literally doing nothing to stop this. And no, voting third party might ease your conscience, but it's not actually doing anything for Palestinians. Like... 200+ years of pointlessly voting third party has pretty much proved that. But you use words such as "pogroms" and you believe you're right so most likely nothing I say will change your mind. But it might sway whoever reads this, so... Here's to hoping your bullshit gets understood as such.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Are you writing this comment while outside actively protesting the genocide?

I do much more than protest.

Cause if not, then you're literally doing nothing to stop this.

I agree that what I am asking people here to do is a very low bar! Just not supporting genocide is very little to ask. It can be accomplished passively. So can you commit to not voting for Harris and to not tell other people to do so?

And no, voting third party might ease your conscience, but it's not actually doing anything for Palestinians.

Voting for an anti-genocide candidate signals being against genocide. It is important to build the power of that group and for Democrats to internalize, to at least some degree, that genocide is unacceptable.

Like... 200+ years of pointlessly voting third party has pretty much proved that.

Is that do? What happened to the Whigs?

But you use words such as "pogroms" and you believe you're right so most likely nothing I say will change your mind.

They are pogroms. Do not out them in quotes unless you are denying that they happen.

But it might sway whoever reads this, so... Here's to hoping your bullshit gets understood as such.

Never again means never again for anyone.