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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

To my knowledge absolutely no one saying “Ban landlords” is also saying “Don’t build any more housing.”

There are plenty of people (EDIT: some of whom are in this very thread) who like to site that there are more vacant houses in the country than there are homeless people, as if to imply we already have all the housing we need.

But the fact of the matter is that US and Canadian cities have increased in population without a proportional increase in housing stock. The difference is mostly made up by more people living with their parents into adulthood, people living with more roommates to make rent, and multiple families living in "single family" houses.

We don't do anything about it because home owners treat housing as an investment and expect its price to keep going up forever. Also because people hate multi-unit residential buildings for all sorts of nonsensical and racist reasons.

To be clear I am an advocate for the Vienna model of public housing and programs that temporarily repossess and rent out vacant properties, but I am first and foremost an advocate for housing abundance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There are plenty of people (EDIT: some of whom are in this very thread) who like to site that there are more vacant houses in the country than there are homeless people, as if to imply we already have all the housing we need.

I feel like you're taking very much the wrong implication from that statement then. Again, I can't seem to see any meaningful number of these people actively advocating against building more housing. That doesn't seem to be a position that anyone seriously takes. What is being said is that we clearly have capacity that is not being properly utilized. And we're both clearly in agreement as to why that's the case.

I think it's important to remember that when people are pushing back on a position generally held in bad faith (e.g. "The only solution to our housing crisis is to build more housing", a framing that is basically designed to protect the wealthy and ultimately maintain the status quo), they're going to frame their own arguments against the position they're pushing back on. They're not laying out an election platform. They're not going to take the time to establish the specific nuances of their position for every possible context and audience. If you were to ask that same person "Do you think we should never build any more housing, ever" the percentage that are going to say "Yes" is going to be a rounding error. You have to read people's arguments in the context in which they are given.