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bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe (midwest.social)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like, what "leeway" does Kamala have to say anything different than she already has, which she could shift to?

a significant enough chunk of her voter base credibly withholding a vote based on a desired policy change would force a shift toward that desired policy change

i'd say biden's platform in 2020 was significantly more left-wing than clinton's in 2016

But that was then, and this is now.

this is the same "it's too late" or "it's too unprecedented" or whatever you want to pick that was exactly the justification for biden being kept in as long as he was

I think it really does show voting not for a 3rd party but voting for the other side b/c "bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe" (the title of the post), specifically wrt genocide.

people the post targets aren't voting red. they're just not voting at all, or voting third party. it's an argument to a position held by an insignificant fraction of the left-anti-harris crowd.

it doesn't address the core issue they have. they'd say that continuing to vote for the least-bad party is the reason both parties are bad, and that at a certain point you have to attempt to force a more radical change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Months ago was the time to make changes. Yeah, that's what they said then too, except it was wrong then, as proven by the fact that the changes did happen.

Even if the words sound similar, now really is different than then. Voting has already begun - the fight to pick candidacies is long over and done. It is now long past time to pick a side.

If you want to vote 3rd party then go ahead - nobody is stopping you. Aside from all the news about some 3rd-party candidates receiving money from and having demonstrated ties to Russia (look it up if you haven't heard), the Democrats do not seem to be taking such rhetoric as a credible "threat" though, for whatever reason. Probably bc they really are the best hope for the Palestinian people, as the latter recently confirmed by putting out a statement saying why they finally chose to endorse Kamala Harris's campaign. You can ofc accuse the Dems of being very naive and disconnected from their voting base - that would be extremely difficult to argue against - and yet facts are facts.

See e.g. this article: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17919598.