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They are good editors but feel very slow compared to even VS code.
Try zed and you will not want to go back.
Won't speak to Webstorm, but hard disagree when it comes to Rider. VSCode/Zed really fit into an entirely different category from Jetbrains IDE's. Lightweight editors vs full fat development environments. There are use cases for each.
I think the line between these two categories is less defined than it once was. A well set up vscode environment is functionally very comparable to the equivalent jetbrains product. The difference mostly lies I think it how “out of the box” the set up is.
As a C# developer on Linux, I wish this was more true than it is. Working on a multi project dotnet solution in VSCode is still far behind Visual Studio / Jetbrains Rider.
Its also worth pointing out that the more you add to VSCode, the slower it becomes. If you add the toolkits to make it compete with Jetbrains products, it isn't nearly the same lightweight editor anymore.
Yeah I think it varies by ecosystem. Java and C# have really good IDE support, made possible because those languages were designed in a way that made the jobs of IDEs simpler. For more dynamic languages like JS and Python, there’s less that an IDE can offer that isn’t easily provided as a plugin. For languages like Rust I think there is more potential for high IDE support, but up to this point I think text editors have dominated due to general preference and a lack of entrenched ecosystem support.
Yeah I know, I just said zed is faster. It doesn't have all the features of Jetbrains IDE's and never will. I agree it's a different usecase and for me and what I do, zed feels amazing.
It's easy to be faster with exponentially less features. Even vscode is lacking behind jetbrains. Most features I need that are not there is quickly finding all usages (actual usages instead of just search by name) as well as intelligent refactoring of all usages in all files and event some comments and it being done automatically if your move or rename a file also. Also setting up a main run button is actually very annoying to do in most languages in vscode (idk if you can even do it in zed?), you eventually have to ude commandlinz for everything. Also the lack of language formatter for all languages...
Compared to something like VSC, yeah JetBrains IDE's take a while to boot up. But if the alternative is Visual Studio, they're amazingly smooth.