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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (4 children)

At the all-hands meeting, Garman said he’s been speaking with employees and “nine out of 10 people are actually quite excited by this change.”

Just imagine the conversation between the CEO of AWS and some random employee.

„What do you think about the return-to-office policy I propose, Cog #18574?“ „Great idea Mr. Garman sir, really smart move from your team. Incredible thinking and leadership from you Mr. Garman.“

continues to tell people that 9/10 employees he talks to are excited to return to office.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He has to be straight up lying. There’s no way 9/10 are excited to be ordered back into the office. If that were the case, they’d have been in the office already.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

It's not like there's any meaningful consequence if he is lying.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The ten surveyed were already in the office voluntarily.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s a very good point that I’ve never really thought of. It’s not like anybody was keeping them from going back into the office. If they wanted five days a week, they would already have been there five days a week.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If 9/10 were already voluntarily coming into the office every day, I could see it. Of course it would only be 9/10 of the people he bothered to speak to it about, and maybe he only spoke to people that were already there.

As to why they would care if they were already there, well one guy in my team goes in every day of his own accord. He applies pressure to everyone on my team to be there with him every day, in spite of the stated WFH policy. So everyone but me goes in every day because I'm the only one that is willing to disappoint him. I'm reasonably certain that guy would love a forced into the office every day mandate, to force me to be there too. Then he could stop making passive aggressive comments about how people who didn't come in must not care about the work as much as they should at every opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

9 out of the 10 he talked to are brown nosers and tell him what he wants to hear.

Unless they were preselected micromanagers who like to bully their employees.

Nobody I’ve EVER talked to wants 5 days in the office anymore. 2-3 tops. Even 3 levels above me don’t.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The "anonymous" survey asked this question with two choices: I agree or I'm looking for opportunities elsewhere

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The other 1/10 gets fired for not being a team player.