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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (40 children)

Well, to be perfectly clear, here in Mexico happened a students massacre in the Three Cultures square in 1968. The CIA was involved.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (28 children)

Americans will post a meme about Tianimen Square while eating a Chiquita banana.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (26 children)

Americans can, and will, openly discuss this stuff, and think badly of their government for it, and won't get in trouble with the government for doing so publicly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tell that to the college anti-war protestors getting beat by police for literally using their first amendment right to protest and speak, and NOT blocking movement to classes at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Let's never forget that Jerry Seinfeld paid counter protesters over the genocide protest at UCLA.

https://www.newsweek.com/jerry-seinfeld-wife-donates-pro-israel-ucla-rally-1895409

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, I was going to say that Kent state would be a more apt comparison. But this isn't the issue at hand. If I go into a thread discussing Kent, the US over throw of Guatemala, etc. I am just saying I choose the evils of the US, and am here to whatabout China as a deflection. You can tell me all this stuff, that I am already keenly aware of, and it still does nothing, but miss the point.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is an english meme about the one event in Chinese history that gets repeated in english-speaking spaces over and over and over again. This isn't attempting to make an argument to a Chinese audience. Why shouldn't we draw comparisons to similar things in the US? What else would we talk about? Just a whole thread of "yeah, that's bad" again and again? For every time this gets trotted out?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago

if you have nothing to say on the subject, don't say anything. This goes both ways. If someone is talking about, say, Kent state, and admonishing the US, and all you have is we may have shot a couple college kids, but in China they ran a bunch over with tanks, just fucking move on, and don't comment. These additions aren't valuable.

Or, maybe, bring up the point you make here? Like discuss the specific concept of the english speaking world spreading that as a meme at this point. That would be way more valuable a contribution than, yet another, whataboutism.

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